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Old 10-30-2007, 03:28 AM   #46
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Skynyrd is NOT hippie music. Not even close. Freebird came out in 1973, and the hippie movement was pretty much dead by then.
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Why are you glad we've moved on?
well to be fair, i wasn't alive then and don't know firsthand what it was like, i'm an 80s child...

to me the love and peace were great but i think of the "excesses" a la the Neil young quote... drug abuse, etc etc...

and from a musical standpoint it gets stale after awhile..
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To piggyback on the previous question, moved on from what? Moved on from that style of music, or the "phase"?
both.

when and where i first really got into music, in the late 80s and early 90s, lots of my peers considered the hippie age as the golden age of pop culture. while i recognize some of the music and some of the ideas as great, i think it was always kind of half-baked (no pun intended)...




...even in the years that it was being created.

as far as looking back to golden ages goes, i get at least as much from jazz, swing, soul and ragtime music, which
(with the possible exception of soul) have never enjoyed the sort of retro-admiration that "the sixties" have.
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Some good music is timeless. [/B][/QUOTE]

some, absolutely i agree with that 100%

and as it happens Neil Young is one of my favorites who got his start in that era.

to me it's no coincidence that he's lasted much longer than most acts from that era, and that his scope always seemed bigger than most of his contemporaries from "the sixties".
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they didn't move on
they just moved to Northern California
Humboldt county to be exact
hilarious- there's still a strong contingent here as well
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The biggest problem with this thread of mine is that we don't have an agreed definition of 'hippie music'. We're all evaluating each other's song additions and answering each other's questions using our own definitions of 'hippie music'.

For me, 'hippie music' simply means music that hippies listened to on a regular or at least a semi-regular basis.

You can't tell me that hippies never listened to Freebird or Janis Joplin or Led Zeppelin or Bob Dylan.

The point, however, is that your definiton of 'hippie' music might well be different from mine.

Oh, and dr.zooeuss still hasn't explained why he's glad we've 'moved on' from the 'hippie phase' or what exactly we've 'moved on' to.
sorry, i was away for a few days.. i do that sometimes

hopefully my above replies to other comments will serve to explain "why i'm glad we've moved on"

as far as what we've moved on to.. there've been lots of movements, musical eras and popular philosophies since the "hippie phase", so much so that i don't understand you if you mean to imply that we're still in the hippie era?

definitely the iraq war bears some resemblance to the viet nam war , and i disagree with the majority of the motivations behind both wars.

even if there's a strong parallel there, i don't think the current times match the sixties or the hippie era very strongly.

i value some things in common with hippie "philosophy" - first to mind are peace, a loving approach toward life and others, and environmental protection// preservation.

i also take considerable issue with some common hippie values such as neo-luddism, drug use and anarchism.

not that all "hippies" value all of these things, but to go by general understandings of hippie values, that's what i mean.

musically, i mean to say that i'm glad that in 2007 hippie music is not still dominating the cutting edge of music. to name a few... i'm glad we've had reggae, punk, hip-hop, electronica, alt//country, 'indie' and neo-soul...

hope i've been clear.

ps some of my favorite "hippie era" musicians (you'll notice most of them had careers that spanned more time than the late 60s)

(in order of my preference for them, not their "hippie-ness")

The Beatles (late stuff, obviously)
Stevie wonder
Neil Young
CSN(&Y)
Simon & Garfunkel
Bob Dylan
CCR
Joni Mitchell
Sly & the Family Stone
Joe Cocker
Rolling Stones
Santana
Carly Simon
The Who
Ritchie Havens
Jimi Hendrix

a question for the experts - when was the hippie era?

if i had to guess i'd say 1967 to 1971?

really pretty short, all things considered.
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as far as looking back to golden ages goes, i get at least as much from jazz, swing, soul and ragtime music, which
(with the possible exception of soul) have never enjoyed the sort of retro-admiration that "the sixties" have.
This is quite true-those eras always seem to be forgotten. I haven't heard TONS of stuff from any of those genres, but I agree, they all produced their share of great stuff as well. I tend to have a bit of an affinity for that 30s/40s "smokey bar/lounge" sound or that WW2 era jazziness and stuff (i.e., songs along the lines of that "Bugle Boy" one-the exact title escapes me now, but hopefully you know what I mean?).

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Man, he had some great opinions on music back in the day.
lmao. come on SP, he still spits out good ones.
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This is quite true-those eras always seem to be forgotten. I haven't heard TONS of stuff from any of those genres, but I agree, they all produced their share of great stuff as well. I tend to have a bit of an affinity for that 30s/40s "smokey bar/lounge" sound or that WW2 era jazziness and stuff (i.e., songs along the lines of that "Bugle Boy" one-the exact title escapes me now, but hopefully you know what I mean?).

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But...Zeppelin's first four records(I, II, III, and ZOSO) were released between 1969 and 1971.

1969 is right in the thick of hippie times.
Ah, okay. I don't know my Zeppelin history.

But I still don't consider Zeppelin "hippie music."

Zeppelin is more Tolkien than Summer of Love.

(I got THAT part of my Zeppelin stuff right ... right? )
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Zeppelin is more Tolkien than Summer of Love.

(I got THAT part of my Zeppelin stuff right ... right? )
re: Tolkien...

it's just a couple of lines in one song, isn't it?
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re: Tolkien...

it's just a couple of lines in one song, isn't it?
Just off the top of my head...

Ramble On
Misty Mountain Hop
Battle Of Evermore
Stairway To Heaven
Over The Hills And Far Away
The Rain Song (?)
Black Mountain Side

All reference the books.
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wow, really. Ramble On is all i knew about.

i guess i thought tunes like "Battle of Evermone" were more about Norse mythology or somesuch than LOTR...

then again, i've never been a huge Zeppelin fan, don't think i've even heard all of those songs.

out of curiosity, what in Stairway is a Tolkien reference?
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out of curiosity, what in Stairway is a Tolkien reference?
There are many, but the one that sticks out the most to me is:

There's a feeling I get when I look to the west
And my spirit is crying for leaving
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees
And the voices of those who stand looking
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interesting..
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