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Old 10-05-2007, 12:39 PM   #76
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Mama Burke's nostrils were very distracting.
Me too...they don't look the same size and I kept complaining about them.
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Why do they have to have repeat of the the show of last night's (Thursday) tonight?
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:57 PM   #78
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Because the networks are cheating.

There is a little known rule that if you air the same episode within the same week, and the exact same commercials both times, you can aggregate the ratings. Networks use this to artificially boost their audience numbers, both for bragging rights and for advertising dollars. NBC famously did it with Heroes in their season opener and artificially increased the audience by 3 million.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:16 PM   #79
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Well, Thursday was an improvement! That's more like the Grey's I knew and loved for a year and a half!

Except for the George/Callie/Izzie triangle. George leaving Callie? Callie suddenly a shrewish, incompetent, needy mess? The only part I can believe is Izzie being stupid.


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Why do they have to have repeat of the the show of last night's (Thursday) tonight?
They've done that with Grey's for awhile now. It's obviously a ratings ploy. Thing is, I used to find it handy once, when I was more in love with the show and would occasionally miss a Thursday episode. Now, not so much.
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Oh my..



Here are the rest

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I think I have to get that issue
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I HATE Gizzie! It's completely ruined the show! I can deal with Meredith being annoying and whiny, and even the stupid addition of her sister, but this Gizzie stuff is so ridiculous! I hate every second of it!!!
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Holy Mama!!!
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Except for the George/Callie/Izzie triangle. George leaving Callie? Callie suddenly a shrewish, incompetent, needy mess? The only part I can believe is Izzie being stupid.
The only thing I'm confused about--and this reflects the larger thread here, not just this post--is this unrealistic insistence that the characters remain exactly the same as established in season one. That is, you want the characters to be flat archetypes with no sense of character development or growth--both of which are generally accepted prerequisites for storytelling.

It may be, as well, that many of you think that these characters are not, in fact, "growing," but, instead, "reverting." That is not how I have seen it. The "growth" I have seen is, nonetheless, "unconventional." Rather than taking a group of "bad" people and turning them "good," they are, instead, taking a group of "overachieving robots" (as one could refer to someone who has chosen years of academic studies over developing a social life) and turning them "human."

It's a sentiment, in particular, that I've been able to identify with, and that's probably why I find myself defending this show as much as I have here. The "progress" is in watching these very "book smart" group of doctors fumble their way through learning about life. I could argue that this kind of lesson has a typically American anti-intellectual undertone to it, but I've enjoyed the ride so far.
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Just when you think you might like Alex.....he turns into a bastard again.

And how many freak'in commercials can there possibly be....one commercial break was 7 minutes!!!
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It may be, as well, that many of you think that these characters are not, in fact, "growing," but, instead, "reverting." That is not how I have seen it. The "growth" I have seen is, nonetheless, "unconventional." Rather than taking a group of "bad" people and turning them "good," they are, instead, taking a group of "overachieving robots" (as one could refer to someone who has chosen years of academic studies over developing a social life) and turning them "human."
That may very well make sense but I don't think it applies to a character like Callie. Here is a woman who is a 4th year resident, who had an established personality, an established career (that she was obviously good at or she wouldn't be CR right now), and who was written as a strong, independent woman. This is not the story of the over-achieving intern who is tossed into the working environment with a God complex and who changes for better or worse as reality hits.

This is my only complaint - I can buy Izzie and George (although how he bedded all those women is beyond me as I have no idea what they see in him; all I want to do is slap him). I understand Meredith completely, I understand Lexie and Alex and Cristina. I don't think they're poorly written and in fact, they are more complex because they are so flawed. But Callie, sorry, I don't buy a complete personality transplant, especially given that on the show, maybe half a year has elapsed since she even showed up. It's really unrealistic and she's grating on my last nerve.

I did like the Meredith/Lexie scenes today. That relationship comes across as real and I find them both likeable and their reactions to each other are about what I expect.
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That may very well make sense but I don't think it applies to a character like Callie. Here is a woman who is a 4th year resident, who had an established personality, an established career (that she was obviously good at or she wouldn't be CR right now), and who was written as a strong, independent woman. This is not the story of the over-achieving intern who is tossed into the working environment with a God complex and who changes for better or worse as reality hits.
I don't see Callie being an exception to the "overachieving robot" status, as, looking at the entire cast of this show, regardless of status, they're all "robots"--from interns all the way to the chief of surgery.

And perhaps one can make the argument that this is yet another example of how women are denigrated professionally on TV. On the other hand, the male "professionals" on this show are just as full of emotional baggage.

For what it's worth, I believe this situation with Callie is temporary, and I believe that she will regain most of her original strength again. That does appear to be the direction this show is going, particularly after having seen this week's episode. But she's obviously in a funk, and the larger lesson this show is trying to convey is that even "robots" have emotional issues--a lesson that every character on this show, not just the female characters, seems to be dealing with one way or another.
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There's some great discussion here I want to jump in on but my pounding head is screaming no.

So all I will say is, I so enjoyed "Really Old Guy"


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And perhaps one can make the argument that this is yet another example of how women are denigrated professionally on TV. On the other hand, the male "professionals" on this show are just as full of emotional baggage.
That's a good and correct point, but it still bugs me sometimes to see some of the women behave in certain ways-like Cristina throwing away her professional ethics last season over Burke. Then again women do that sometimes. To me she was always the strongest female character who resisted that sort of thing then bingo, it happened to her. Maybe it just holds up too much of a mirror to us sometimes that we don't really want to look into.
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I did enjoy last night's episode, but as JC mentioned, what the f was with all the commercials??! Alex was really likeable and then bam, jerk Alex again. I feel that Christina's character has lost her sense of purpose without Burke now. I liked that Mer finally opened up a teeny bit to Lexie and the coldness seemed to go away for a moment at the end. George yelling at Izzie to shut up, loved it. she's been so whiny about George telling Callie it's over. Glad he finally admitted he slept with Izzie though.

Alex sticking that needle in the kid's head
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