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  • I'll probably buy Chinese Democracy AND try to see them live

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I'll probably buy Chinese Democracy but don't care about seeing them live

    Votes: 5 17.2%
  • I'll probably try to see them live but not buy the album

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • I don't give a rat's ass about GNR!

    Votes: 23 79.3%

  • Total voters
    29

Zoots

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Dec. 14, 2006

AN OPEN LETTER FROM AXL ROSE

An open letter to our fans:

Guns N’ Roses regrets to announce that the following concert tour dates have been canceled:

January 10: Sacramento
January 11: Bakersfield
January 13: Reno
January 16: San Diego

Because of the scheduling of these particular shows, valuable time needed by the band and record company for the proper setup and release of the album Chinese Democracy would have been lost. Rather than delay the album yet again, all involved have decided to remove these shows from GN’R’s schedule. We hope our fans understand and we apologize for any inconveniences this may have caused. Tickets may be refunded at point of purchase.

To say the making of this album has been an unbearably long and incomprehensible journey would be an understatement. Overcoming the endless and seemingly insane amount of obstacles faced by all involved, notwithstanding the emotional challenges endured by everyone -- the fans, the band, our road crew and business team -- has at many times seemed like a bad dream in which one wakes up only to find that they are still in the nightmare. Unfortunately, this time it has been played out for over a decade in real life.

The true, ongoing, behind-the-scenes triumphs and casualties are much more complicated than any negative speculation that the media or otherwise has managed to hit upon. For much of the time, various legal issues have arisen, demanding that the best way to deal with these things publicly, quite frankly, was to keep our mouths shut in an attempt to ensure the best outcome -- especially one that wouldn’t jeopardize the band or the album. It’s easy for people to point out how others have handled similar situations or how they would have dealt with these issues themselves if they encountered them in their own lives. But again, without full knowledge of the various dynamics and circumstances involved, these types of comments or commentary are just uninformed, disassociated, generally useless -- and often hindering -- speculation.

When I agreed to do our recent North American tour, I did it with the understanding that my manager, Merck Mercuriadis, and I were in full agreement regarding our strategy and touring plans and, most important, that any and all things needed to release the album by Dec. 26 at the latest were in place. Unfortunately, it turned out that this was not the case, and I regret to say that the album will not be released by the end of the year. Although many things went extremely well and were very exciting, there were, in our opinion, unnecessary and avoidable complications on our tour having to do with the tour routing, scheduling and album and video plans that wreaked havoc on all involved. This was compounded by an overall sense of a lack of respect by management for the band and crew and each individual's particular expertise that has resulted, unfortunately, in the end of both Guns’ and my managerial involvement with Merck Mercuriadis.

In regard to a release date for the album itself, certain minor –- and I do mean minor -- additions, as well as contract negotiations, need to be completed. Barring any unforeseen complications, these things have now been adequately scheduled. The band and I, along with our record company, feel that this record deserves the proper setup and promotion, not the “13 Tuesdays left” and “It may just appear in your record store” approach offered by management. We believe this strategy may have been used as a tool by management to sell this latest tour to the various promoters, and if this was the case, this was obviously unfair to them. The stress of dealing with this situation has been considerable for everyone, including the band, but more important, in our opinion, it was something utterly insane to do to our fans. You have our apologies, and please know we have been laboring over this with management for the entire North American tour.

It takes approximately eight weeks for an album to hit the shelves once it has been turned in to the record company. For whatever reasons, it appears that it may have been mistakenly inferred by management that this time period could be condensed to three weeks. With that being said, this is not a promise, a lie or a guarantee, but we do wish to announce a tentative release date of March 6. This is the first time we have done this publicly for this album. Others have made up all the other dates for their own reasons. We would like to assure the fans that everything in our power will be done to meet this date. Once it is finalized and official, you will be notified. If we are delayed for unseen reasons, you also will be notified as soon as possible in regard to a new date, and the album will be released as shortly thereafter as is possible. We thank you for your patience.

In the end, it’s just an album, but it’s one that I, the band, our record company and all involved believe and feel is a true Guns N’ Roses album. Ultimately the public will decide, and regardless of the outcome, our hearts, lives and our passion has been put into this project every step of the way. If for no other reason, we feel those elements alone merit your consideration. We do hope you can hold on just a bit longer, and if not, please take a break and we’ll be more than glad -- if you so choose -- to see you again later.

Once again, we offer our sincere apologies and our deepest thanks. Guns N’ Roses also would like to thank all the fans who attended the 70 concerts in 21 countries for their support in 2006. All the best to each and every one of you over this holiday season, thank you and God bless.

Sincerely,

Axl Rose

http://web.gunsnroses.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061214&content_id=a1&vkey=news&fext=.jsp

...for what it's worth! :shrug:
 
Beyond Appetite I never cared. I follow the news more for entertainment purposes.
 
It takes approximately eight weeks for an album to hit the shelves once it has been turned in to the record company. For whatever reasons, it appears that it may have been mistakenly inferred by management that this time period could be condensed to three weeks. With that being said, this is not a promise, a lie or a guarantee, but we do wish to announce a tentative release date of March 6

Notice he didn't say "2007" after "March 6".
 
Headache in a Suitcase said:
where's the option for "i will illegaly download chinese democracy because after 10 years of hearing about it i will have to see what it's all about, but nothing more than that" ?

:shh: The RIAA are watching.

Hewson said:
Notice he didn't say "2007" after "March 6".

:lol:
 
Zootlesque said:


:shh: The RIAA are watching.



:lol:

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LemonMelon said:


Hey, I don't have iTunes. :shrug: Got to get music from somewhere. :wink:

um how about CDs from music stores? :eyebrow: :wink:

meh.. I illegally download too, in addition to buying CDs. :shifty:
 
Good, I thought I was the one with the problem... I've always wondered about the whole itunes thing, what happens if your computer crashes or your ipod breaks? I realize it's pretty much the same as one of my CDs breaking but still...
 
I don't give a rat's ass. If it ever comes out, I'll be curious to hear about it, but not hear it myself.

There is just no way in hell it can ever live up to all this anticipation.
 
The reviews for Chinese Democracy will look a bit like this:

Allmusic - 2 stars
Pitchfork - 4.7/10
Rolling Stone - 4 stars (which is what they give everything)
 
Zootlesque said:


I thought they give 3 stars for everything.

Two stars to any album that is remotely challenging or fails to sell.

Four stars for any album released by a popular, well-established artist.
 
I wonder how much longer it will be until people will remember GNR as the band those guys from Velvet Revolver used to be in :huh:
 
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