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Old 03-07-2007, 02:42 PM   #46
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Beav - You've left me speechless.

I'm a fan of the earlier stuff, and when you see it from the beginning to progress where it did in the 80s, you just have to go Sussudio is no Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.

We'll just have to agree to disagree
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Old 03-07-2007, 04:04 PM   #47
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Does anybody have any information about the last genesis tour( in 1992) in terms of attendances figures? .I am very surprised that ,in America, they only will play 2 stadiums,considering that their last tour was a 30 date stadium tour. Maybe in 1992 the ticket sales was poor? I doubt it . Anybody can help?

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I think ticket sales were good, not as good as ZOO TV though. I know that in Philadelphia, their two shows at Veterans Stadium had a higher attendance than U2's two ZOO TV shows in Veterans stadium. I think Philadelphia has always been Genesis's strongest market in the USA. But in Washington DC they were barely able to get just over 40,000 people into RFK stadium, while U2 soldout two shows at RFK stadium.

I'm not sure how other Genesis shows did on that tour. Its been 15 years, so its basically very difficult to determine what demand is going to be like after such a long time away with no new material. It could go either way, and I think they are playing it safe with announcing some arena shows. If each of those arena shows sells out rapidly enough, they may add 10 more stadium shows.

I think all the shows in Europe soldout, but it took several weeks for them to all sellout and Europe, especially Germany is Genesis strongest market.
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Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your ass. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and, uh, Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
I must be one of those rare fans that loves both the Gabriel and Collins eras. They are vastly different, of course, but I enjoy both for that very reason.

Of course, Beav, you've interconnected solo Collins with Genesis in that post, but in the 80's, it was hard to tell one from the other, especially with Invisible Touch, which I have to admit is the Genesis album I like the least. Just a little too slick for my tastes, although Land Of Confusion and Domino stand out for me.

As I previously stated, Duke is by far my favorite Collins-era album. Abacab is decent, as is the self-titled one. The last one, We Can't Dance, is very underrated, in my opinion. Take out a couple of sappy tunes like Hold On My Heart, and man, great album, if only for Fading Lights...
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Beav - You've left me speechless.

I'm a fan of the earlier stuff, and when you see it from the beginning to progress where it did in the 80s, you just have to go Sussudio is no Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.

We'll just have to agree to disagree
Sussudio isnt Genesis though. Thats Phil solo. and there is a difference. Phil solo is WAY more poppy.

I'm not a big Genesis or Phil fan or Gabriel fan for that matter. One of my good friends is a BIG fan though. So I have seen all of them live at some point. I have to say the best out of all of them was Phil with Genesis in 1992. Pretty good show. I think the Gabriel era is OK, but like some others have mentioned I dont really get it or care for it. I saw the Detroit Silverdome show in 1992 and it was as full for Genesis as it was for U2 at the same facility 4 months later. They did play on Memorial Day weekend though so that might have helped. But it was a good size crowd.

Good Genesis songs for me as a non fan are Domino, Home By The Sea, Fading Lights and Driving The Last Spike. All really good songs that are not poppy.

I will probably attend this version of the reunion as I know my friend will want to go. I have to say I will be looking forward to it more than I would if Gabriel was back with them.
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These ticket prices are getting more and more ridiculous.
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Ok, I was just browsing around on iTunes, and I completely forgot how much of the Phil-era Genesis I know.

My Dad was the audiophile in our home, so I grew up listening to everything he did. And his 3 favorites of all time are probably Led Zeppelin, Genesis and Steely Dan.

Now, granted, he and I's FAVORITE Genesis is with our main men, Peter and Steve, but I completely forgot about songs like "Duchess", "Man On The Corner", and "Second Home By The Sea". I have very clear memories of those.

Hmmmm, maybe this tour might be something worth investigating. I'll have to ask my Dad if he'd be interested in going.



(Though it would still be better if Peter were on the tour! Peter on lead vocals! )
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Mr fah is going to be very disappointed that there is no Vancouver show
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Hmmm...at the Garden on 9/11.
$227 plus fees for good seats...Oy vey.
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Lovely.
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Now, granted, he and I's FAVORITE Genesis is with our main men, Peter and Steve, but I completely forgot about songs like "Duchess", "Man On The Corner", and "Second Home By The Sea". I have very clear memories of those.
Duchess
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$227 plus fees for good seats...Oy vey.

Where are the Garden dates?
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Where are the Garden dates?

You posted it yourself:

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Tues. Sept. 11 BOSTON, MA TD Banknorth Garden Thur. Mar. 8 @ 10 am Mon. Mar. 12 @ 10 am
The only Garden that matters.
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I hate to say it, but I just bought Police and Roger Waters tickets, and I'm just kinda tapped out on money for concerts.
I was really psyched when I heard about the reunion, but it's just bad timing for the onsale dates, as well as the concert dates (back to school for me....as a teacher).
Maybe I'll try eBay in the summer, when I have more money to burn...
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The only Garden that matters.
lol I meant Madison Square Garden
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we are experiencing very heavy traffic at the moment, please check back. The presale is on hold and no codes are currently being distributed.
Making for some wicked happy fan club members I'm sure.
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