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Old 04-05-2007, 11:38 AM   #1
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football violence needs to stop!!!!

After yet another tough match yesterday, Man U fans clash with Rome police and yet theres more chaos to the beautiful game...how do you stop football violence???
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:30 PM   #2
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Stop ManU fans from going to matches! (j/k)

Seriously though, there's fun harmless banter, and then there are these idiots who take it far more seriously than just a game. Sadly they ruin it for everyone else. I was planning to go to an away match for one of Germany's 2008 qualifiers, but the news of 1000 hooligans planning to show up changed our minds!
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I do find it odd there were no police stationed in the Roma fans section when they seemed to be causing equal trouble.
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I was in Amsterdam back in November when England Vs Netherlands friendly toke place. First time experiencing a match overseas.....very interesting. Each nations fans would walk the streets singing and cheering....and then there were the hooligans that caused at least 3 separate police blockades.

I know in some of our football stadiums, we've built jails (I think Philly has one) where if a fan or fans get out of control, they're booked and thrown in jail on the spot.
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Starting with the Italian police.
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^ Closely followed by the french!
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impartial and unbiased as ever jimmmm
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UEFA wants 'sports police force'

LONDON, England (Reuters) -- UEFA is working to try to introduce a cross-border sports police force to keep order at European soccer matches from next season, a British newspaper reported on Saturday.

Games involving English clubs Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur in Europe this week were marred by violent clashes between fans and local police in Rome and Seville.

"We are looking to create a type of European sports police, a way of dealing systematically with the problem," The Daily Telegraph quoted a senior official of European soccer's governing body as saying.

UEFA President Michel Platini recently called for the setting up of an international police force to deal with sports related violence, a topic of discussion in a meeting he had with European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso.

"We need cool heads. First of all, we cannot tolerate violence in any form off the pitch, but we also have to understand the mechanics of it," said the UEFA official, who was not identified.

"It is over the travelling fans that there are concerns over safety, because it is easier to cause trouble abroad than in England.

"But you have to take note of some reports in the Italian press after the incidents in Rome," he said.

"One point is the drinking habits of English fans, which do shock many southern Europeans."

Tottenham fans fined

The seven Tottenham fans who were arrested after crowd trouble during their side's UEFA Cup match against Sevilla on Thursday have been released after paying fines of up to 1,500 euros ($2,007).

Police said that the seven fans, who had been accused of assaulting policemen and security guards, had returned to England after been fined between 900 and 1,500 euros.

Trouble broke out during the first half of Thursday's quarterfinal first leg at the Sanchez Pizjuan. Spanish authorities said that a number of Tottenham fans had attacked security guards and police as they entered the stadium and occupied an unauthorised area.

Police equipped with riot shields and batons were deployed against the fans, while television pictures showed seats and missiles being thrown by Tottenham fans.

A number of Tottenham fans were injured in the clashes, while 11 policeman were also hurt, one of whom spent the night in hospital under observation.
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It has to be the foreign police forces fault, because in England football hooliganism is unheard of in the domestic game..........
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do you seriously think the fucking thugs wielding batons didn't over react, why weren't any of the bastards in with the eyeties, lobbing all kinds of missiles at the utd fans, & then have them knuckle scraping, window licking bastards wading in smashing Utd fans heads in, & then 2 days later, not to be outdone the fucking daygo's get in on the act, apparenlty 1 Spurs fan in a wheelchair took a smash to his head, but then, hey, Utd, Spurs they're English so its alright to let uniformed thugs knock the living shit out of them isn't, & when the dust has settled the fucking chocolate fireguard that is uefa will probably fine the English clubs for failing to keep their fans in order!
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It has to be the foreign police forces fault, because in England football hooliganism is unheard of in the domestic game..........
sarcasm doesn't become you fella, but in recent seasons hooliganism hasn't been much of a problem in England, compared to say italy, was it only last season 11 'Boro fans were stabbed by those oh so lovely roma "Ultras," leeds fans killed in fucking turkey, but hey, its their culture to behave in such a way isn't it, & it was only English lads so that makes it alright doesn't it, no-one with 1 iota of common sense could say those fucking chimps in police uniform in italy or spain behaved in anything other than a totally fucking outrageous, & "hooligan" way, if they felt the need to behave like that in rome, why the fuck weren't some of the locals left with smashed heads also. personally I hope the lads in K stand, & the Stretford End kick the living shit out of any eyetie giving it some at OT on tues. night, just to give the continental bastards a real reason to call us ENGLISH again!
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English Xenophobia - It's like Herpes


Yes, the Italian and Spanish Police forces overreacted, they are NOT as well trained as the English in the art of controlling football hooligans. The English Police Forces have decades more experience in doing so. The memories of the Engliush fan rampages across europe being so bad that their teams got banned from international competition for a few years are still fresh in the minds of many.

Looks forward to next tirade of dagos, wops, eyeties, huns and "who won the bloody war anyway"
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Don't you fucking dare judge the fans now with those of the '70's & '80's, is that any excuse to indiscriminately smash innocent peoples heads in, or are English people in general fair game for a good kicking anytime we travel onto the continent!


& who mentioned the war, WTF is that all about, I believe fish oil is good for low IQ's & general lack of intelligence.
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I think that the way the stadium is set up in Rome is just asking for trouble. I think if the facilities were updated and it was a proper all seater stadium then i don't think the trouble would have kicked off. Yes the police overreacted but i think Italian football needs to look at the bigger picture.

Allowing the likes of the "ultras" into a stadium that is effectively terraced (those seats are tiny and have no backrest) and allowing them to bring missiles in to the stadium is ridiculous. It not only threatens the safety of the fans but of the players too.
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Just what kind of drugs are available nowadays, just look at some of this, these words have come from supposedly intelligent, educated people:

Italian Economy ministry under-secretary Paolo Cento, who also chairs a club of Roma supporters in parliament:

"It was Manchester that a few days before the match created a mood of tension, talking of a city of violence and danger.

"Now the English club must apologise to Rome and Italy, rather than asking for Tony Blair to intervene."

Yeah, we're so sorry our English heads did so much damage to your batons. You FUCKING CHIMP!


* Italy's Senate vice-president Mario Baccini:

"The police forces did their duty, isolating troublemakers and permitting the game to continue properly.

Isolated before the start of the game, hey, because there wasn't 1 single italian policeman(& I use that term very loosely)in with the roma crowd, who were lobbing missiles at the Utd support.

"Certainly, they did less than what foreign police do to Italian fans following our teams."

I don't ever remember a single incident of an italian being smashed from pillar to post by an English Policeman, EVER!

A bit of sense from an unlikely source;

* Former ref Anders Frisk who was at the game:

"It was a very bad experience for me to be back in the Olympic Stadium and this time witnessing something that was not good for the game of football. I think the approach from the Italian police was (to blame), in my opinion. My feeling from the beginning was that they were very close to the United supporters. Maybe what started it was something being thrown and I think the Italian police reacted very, very aggressively towards one or two incidents and this is what caused everything to flare in my opinion.



And the sad reality of it all;
The Times:

Insult was added to injury last night as Italian football authorities joined Rome police in condoning the terrifying scenes in the Olympic Stadium on Wednesday, with fears that Manchester United will be punished by Uefa for the ugly incidents even though the club believe that their fans were innocent victims.

Yep, the most likely outcome, United will be punished, roma may get a slap on the wrist, & the FUCKING uniformed CHIMPS, who masquerade as italian police, will recieve praise, & a pat on the back. You really couldn't make this shit up.
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