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Old 11-08-2007, 08:22 PM   #211
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...'kay, you've just seen one band I'd love to see again, and now you're going to see another one I want to see again next week? Do you have any idea how much I envy you right now?

Seriously, have a great time at that show as well .
Don't be envious! These are the first two gigs I've seen all year. We really don't get enough bands coming down here regularly enough. Plus, I'm sure once you see the ticket prices, you'll stop being envious.

Speaking of which, the ticket price tonight plus the fact I have some really pressing work means I've decided not to go. I should be responsible with my finances and my obligations rather than just putting them off and saying "oh, I can do it on the weekend" and "the money will come from somewhere!" In any case, I had such a good time last night, and it's really not about hearing your precise list of requests. Hell, I think I got most of my top ten Crowdies songs anyway.

Still ... the Crowdies are really one of the best live bands around. I like the feeling of not knowing at all what they might play next, and the banter is just awesome. The early set banter between Nick and Neil was hilarious.

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Relatively generic but enjoyable and catchy rock. Imagine a combination of U2 and Matchbox 20, but without the preachiness of the former and with the sincerity and artistic integrity that the latter is commonly perceived to lack.
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Don't be envious! These are the first two gigs I've seen all year. We really don't get enough bands coming down here regularly enough. Plus, I'm sure once you see the ticket prices, you'll stop being envious.
LOL, hmm...good point . That's good that you're getting a chance to catch some shows at last, it's a shame that people don't visit that area of the world as often as they could. If I were a musician, I'd gladly come to that area when possible-from what I've seen of it, it's gorgeous, and the people I've met who live there are pretty cool, too. More artists should take advantage of that.

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Speaking of which, the ticket price tonight plus the fact I have some really pressing work means I've decided not to go. I should be responsible with my finances and my obligations rather than just putting them off and saying "oh, I can do it on the weekend" and "the money will come from somewhere!" In any case, I had such a good time last night, and it's really not about hearing your precise list of requests. Hell, I think I got most of my top ten Crowdies songs anyway.
Aw. Well, you're smarter than I'd be, then...I'd be very tempted to put everything off (sometimes I think "procrastination" should be my middle name), so I applaud you for making the responsible choice. Like you said, you got to have your fun, so all in all it works out. Good luck with the stuff you're going to be working on this weekend.

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Still ... the Crowdies are really one of the best live bands around. I like the feeling of not knowing at all what they might play next, and the banter is just awesome. The early set banter between Nick and Neil was hilarious.
Amen to all of this. I just love how it always seems seeing them live only further cements one's fandom.

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Relatively generic but enjoyable and catchy rock. Imagine a combination of U2 and Matchbox 20, but without the preachiness of the former and with the sincerity and artistic integrity that the latter is commonly perceived to lack.
Hmm... Interesting combination-I do like a few Matchbox 20 songs here and there, so that's not too bad a combination, I'd say. Thanks for the info, I'll give them a listen.

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Speaking of which, the ticket price tonight plus the fact I have some really pressing work means I've decided not to go. I should be responsible with my finances and my obligations rather than just putting them off and saying "oh, I can do it on the weekend" and "the money will come from somewhere!" In any case, I had such a good time last night, and it's really not about hearing your precise list of requests. Hell, I think I got most of my top ten Crowdies songs anyway.
Jeez, Axver, you've got your whole life to be responsible!! I don't know, youth of today.....

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That's good that you're getting a chance to catch some shows at last, it's a shame that people don't visit that area of the world as often as they could. If I were a musician, I'd gladly come to that area when possible-from what I've seen of it, it's gorgeous, and the people I've met who live there are pretty cool, too. More artists should take advantage of that.
I think more would like to - the cost is quite prohibitive though, especially a few years ago when the Aussie dollar wasn't in good shape. But now it's nearly on parity with the US$, so it seems more people are coming here.

I feel sorry for New Zealand though - it often gets left out even by bands who come to Australia. It's such a small market and the costs are so high that I can understand why, but I'm damn glad I live on the left side of the Tasman nowadays, at least when it comes to music. When it comes to my hobbies and academic interests, I'd probably be much better off back home though!

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Aw. Well, you're smarter than I'd be, then...I'd be very tempted to put everything off (sometimes I think "procrastination" should be my middle name), so I applaud you for making the responsible choice. Like you said, you got to have your fun, so all in all it works out. Good luck with the stuff you're going to be working on this weekend.
My procrastination can be pretty shocking too. Maybe if I'd been more on top of things, I wouldn't be in quite such a spot of bother right now. Ah well. I get to spend the next 48 hours writing 2,000 words about religious terrorism. Woo bloody hoo.

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Jeez, Axver, you've got your whole life to be responsible!! I don't know, youth of today.....

No, don't worry, I'm not being that responsible. My friends and I are planning a big spend-up next year on a trip around Australia and New Zealand. The way I look at it, I can either see the Crowdies tonight or I can spend three extra days in a part of New Zealand I've never visited before. Now, as much as I want to hear Recurring Dream, if it came down to a choice between it guaranteed being in the set and spending three days exploring Westland, I'd take the latter in a heartbeat.
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I think more would like to - the cost is quite prohibitive though, especially a few years ago when the Aussie dollar wasn't in good shape. But now it's nearly on parity with the US$, so it seems more people are coming here.
Ahhhh, I see. Yeah, that would definitely be an obstacle, I didn't think about that. But that's good that it seems to be balancing out better now, hopefully the trend of more bands visiting continues .

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I feel sorry for New Zealand though - it often gets left out even by bands who come to Australia. It's such a small market and the costs are so high that I can understand why, but I'm damn glad I live on the left side of the Tasman nowadays, at least when it comes to music.
LOL, no kidding. I always feel bad for the poor little island places that seem to get skipped over so often, too. Like you said, there's a reason for why that is, but it's still crummy. But hey, that's why they invented forms of travel that allow you to go such long distances! Yay for uber-devoted fans .

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When it comes to my hobbies and academic interests, I'd probably be much better off back home though!
Oh, yeah? I can understand that. Such a tug of war, though...

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My procrastination can be pretty shocking too. Maybe if I'd been more on top of things, I wouldn't be in quite such a spot of bother right now. Ah well. I get to spend the next 48 hours writing 2,000 words about religious terrorism. Woo bloody hoo.
Oooh, fun. Aw, you'll be fine-as long as you do the work and get it in on time, you're pretty much set, so.... Once again, good luck.

Also, that trip you have planned sounds awesome. Can I come along ?

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No, don't worry, I'm not being that responsible. My friends and I are planning a big spend-up next year on a trip around Australia and New Zealand. The way I look at it, I can either see the Crowdies tonight or I can spend three extra days in a part of New Zealand I've never visited before. Now, as much as I want to hear Recurring Dream, if it came down to a choice between it guaranteed being in the set and spending three days exploring Westland, I'd take the latter in a heartbeat.
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well im 50/50 over crowdies,
technically they were great and there were some standout moments but i think as a crowd we failed the band, did anyone else here him at the end of mean to me singing " the people up the back asleep may as well lie on the floor????"


spine chilling moment (the crowd sing along) in four seasons totally ruined by some asshole on the floor yahooing . Paul Hester deserves better than that, and i didnt enjoy better be home soon as much as i thought.

had great seats but would rather be in the action, the people around me didnt even stand for the encore for fucks sake.



the new album stuff is much better live than i expected.
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Aw, that sucks about the crowd . I'm sorry to hear that-come on, people, you're at a concert, look alive, will ya?

I was quite pleasantly surprised by the crowd at our show-they were absolutely fantastic from start to finish. Even the opening acts got the proper attention and support. Everyone was really into the whole thing (and it was standing room only-we had no choice but to stay on our feet the whole time) and we didn't have the obnoxious yahoos around that you mentioned (though there were a couple of guys who, at one point, randomly yelled out, "WE LOVE YOU, NEIL!", which I thought was kinda amusing...).

Bah. Here's hoping if and when you see them again the crowd's more energetic. At least there were some good moments, so hey, that's something, at least, right?

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Ahhhh, I see. Yeah, that would definitely be an obstacle, I didn't think about that. But that's good that it seems to be balancing out better now, hopefully the trend of more bands visiting continues .
Yeah, I hate to think how much it costs to cart equipment halfway around the world, especially as Australia itself isn't a huge market either (a shade over 20 million people). The biggest problem is how dispersed our population is. Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, and Adelaide aren't too far apart, but it's a big investment to go over to Perth. Hobart and the regional centres usually just get rejected outright.

What we really need to do is develop a quality homegrown scene! But I haven't taken to that many Aussie bands. Certainly not many of the bigger ones at all.

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LOL, no kidding. I always feel bad for the poor little island places that seem to get skipped over so often, too. Like you said, there's a reason for why that is, but it's still crummy. But hey, that's why they invented forms of travel that allow you to go such long distances! Yay for uber-devoted fans .
Shame about the cost of long distance flights though! Maybe I should become a pilot?

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Oh, yeah? I can understand that. Such a tug of war, though...
I'm rather peculiarly a New Zealand railfan. The worst part? Some of the most exciting railway preservation and heritage work is going on within minutes of my childhood home. I wish I were there to pitch in. And academically, I have a strong interest in New Zealand's history, especially the 1870-1970 period. I'm pursuing a career in academia and at this stage, that's one of my most likely options for a field to specialise in. Post-1945 Romanian political history is pretty much out as I don't speak Romanian and the political landscape of the Reformation is similarly impeded by most of the major figures not being English speakers. Plus, Europe's even further away!

And thanks for the good wishes on the work. It's coming along alright, I think I'm about two thirds done at the moment. So here I am procrastinating on Interference rather than making more progress. Woo!

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well im 50/50 over crowdies,
technically they were great and there were some standout moments but i think as a crowd we failed the band, did anyone else here him at the end of mean to me singing " the people up the back asleep may as well lie on the floor????"
I didn't hear that at all! I'd love a bootleg to see if that's what he did say and I just missed it. Kate recorded some of it on her camera so I'll see if she got that part.

But yeah, Aussie crowds are the absolute pits if you give them seats. As soon as Neil invited us to stand up, I was straight on my feet dancing, clapping, and singing.

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spine chilling moment (the crowd sing along) in four seasons totally ruined by some asshole on the floor yahooing . Paul Hester deserves better than that, and i didnt enjoy better be home soon as much as i thought.
That obnoxious twit pissed me off all concert. I especially wish they'd used their vocal powers for good - i.e. for the Recurring Dream cause!

Incidentally, I saw the set for the second gig. No Recurring Dream there either, but a very rare appearance by Everything Is Good For You (have they done that at all this tour?! Timothius, I hope you were there!). Otherwise, though, I think we got the much better set the first night. The second night got stuck with Italian Plastic and Pineapple Head, bleh! I feel that if I had only gone to the second night, I would have been very happy with it, but as I'd already gone to the first night, I don't think it would have been worth the extra $90. Maybe $50.

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the new album stuff is much better live than i expected.
Very true. Silent House, Pour Le Monde, and Don't Stop Now were great. I was hoping we'd get Nobody Wants To or Even A Child, but I'm not complaining.
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the new album stuff is much better live than i expected.
i totally second this. still not totally wild about the actual album, but the songs were great live. i wished they'd somehow managed to capture the energy they have playing the stuff live and put it on the album, since it sounds more like celine dion than crowded house at times
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Yeah, Nick Seymour. That banter was funny! If you heard a guy yell "give us free tickets", that was me. Though I think the best part of the banter was about how Nick still has a house in Melbourne - to which Neil retorted "yeah, an investment property"!
I think I did hear something, but I couldn't make out the words from where I was.
Investment property...

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That's cool... Thanks for the info!

Must see if I can find that Classic Aussie Albums episode...

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Also, I wonder how alone I am in this opinion: excluding the pseudo-song filler A Sigh and possibly Heaven That I'm Making, Don't Dream It's Over was bizarrely the night's weakest song. Which says something about how good the gig was, as it was an awesome sing-along. But everything else struck me as better.
I dunno... I'm not that good on judging the purely musical/techincal elements of a performance, but I loved the way they closed the show, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
It was a great show through and through, though.

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well im 50/50 over crowdies,
technically they were great and there were some standout moments but i think as a crowd we failed the band, did anyone else here him at the end of mean to me singing " the people up the back asleep may as well lie on the floor????"
I didn't hear that... must have been asleep.

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had great seats but would rather be in the action, the people around me didnt even stand for the encore for fucks sake.
It was like that where we were... I guess I'm too polite to stand up when the people behind me aren't, cos I'm a tall freaky person and I don't want to block their view.
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i wished they'd somehow managed to capture the energy they have playing the stuff live and put it on the album, since it sounds more like celine dion than crowded house at times
LOL, Celine Dion? Interesting comparison...

The album definitely is a grower, but it's not bad. I think the big thing that might've helped is if they maybe worked on the songs until all of them sounded more fully "Crowded House"-esque, 'cause the way it is now, you can definitely tell the Neil solo moments (hello, "Transit Lounge"-that one sounds so out of place) from the band moments, and I think they should've tried to not have the division be so blatanly obvious. But ah, well. I do agree that the songs are excellent live.

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Yeah, I hate to think how much it costs to cart equipment halfway around the world, especially as Australia itself isn't a huge market either (a shade over 20 million people). The biggest problem is how dispersed our population is. Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, and Adelaide aren't too far apart, but it's a big investment to go over to Perth. Hobart and the regional centres usually just get rejected outright.
Ugh, yeah, that would be a major pain. My family's had a hard enough time carrying our stuff from one state to another whenever we've moved. I feel for anyone who has to lug a bunch of stuff all over the world.

I've noticed that about Australia whenever I've looked at maps of the place, people just kinda scattered about all over. So with all that in mind now, yeah, I see where artists will have some issues.

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What we really need to do is develop a quality homegrown scene! But I haven't taken to that many Aussie bands. Certainly not many of the bigger ones at all.
I think that'd be a great idea . Maybe you could start one?

I still need to expand as far as Australian music goes-most of the bands I've heard from there are ones from the '80s! I don't know much about the newer ones, but I'd like to change that.

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Shame about the cost of long distance flights though! Maybe I should become a pilot?
LOL, hey, there ya go!

Yeah. Long-distance flights can be a pain for one's wallet. But I figure if it's something like a good show or visiting a whole new place or whatever, it's worth it.

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I'm rather peculiarly a New Zealand railfan. The worst part? Some of the most exciting railway preservation and heritage work is going on within minutes of my childhood home. I wish I were there to pitch in. And academically, I have a strong interest in New Zealand's history, especially the 1870-1970 period. I'm pursuing a career in academia and at this stage, that's one of my most likely options for a field to specialise in. Post-1945 Romanian political history is pretty much out as I don't speak Romanian and the political landscape of the Reformation is similarly impeded by most of the major figures not being English speakers. Plus, Europe's even further away!
No kidding! That is not the easiest of historical stuff to delve into (though it still sounds fascinating nonetheless-if you've got the patience for it, it's probably a good line of work). But what you mentioned sounds quite interesting, too. I'm nowhere near being what you'd call a history buff, but I like learning about the history of certain areas when I get the opportunity, too, I like learning about what life was like before my time (plus, I think it's very important to understand one's history-many benefits to that). I'd love to learn more about the history of New Zealand, the small amounts of information I've heard about the area thus far have been very interesting (I fully intend on visiting that part of the world someday, so I want to learn as much about it as possible before I go). Perhaps if all works out with the field you want to go into, you can teach the rest of us!

And I don't find the interest in railways weird-my dad's the exact same way. He had family members who worked on railroads here in the U.S., so he's always been interested in them. Even though you can't physically be there to help out, is there anything else you might be able to do? Donate money, write letters to people about preserving the area, something like that?

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And thanks for the good wishes on the work. It's coming along alright, I think I'm about two thirds done at the moment. So here I am procrastinating on Interference rather than making more progress. Woo!
LOL. Eh, that's good to hear you've made some headway and things seem to be coming together okay, though. And you're welcome-I've been in a similar situation before, so I sympathize.

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LOL, Celine Dion? Interesting comparison...

The album definitely is a grower, but it's not bad. I think the big thing that might've helped is if they maybe worked on the songs until all of them sounded more fully "Crowded House"-esque, 'cause the way it is now, you can definitely tell the Neil solo moments (hello, "Transit Lounge"-that one sounds so out of place) from the band moments, and I think they should've tried to not have the division be so blatanly obvious. But ah, well. I do agree that the songs are excellent live.
it was the first adult contemporary artist that came to mind

i definitely agree about the album being obvious where you can tell which songs are crowded house, and which were neil solo. i think woodface was like that, too. surely after woodface got slammed for being so uneven, you'd think neil would've learned to not combine albums anymore!
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I'm on here at school, trying desperately not to get busted but I just wanted to quickly post about the concert.

It was sooooo good. Sorry if I embarassed you ali.

I was surprised though, for me the highlights were all the lesser-known stuff. When You Come was the highlight of the night for sure. It was dead set amazing. Teacher's coming. Bye
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