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Old 06-14-2005, 06:32 AM   #16
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the yankees don't need a new stadium immediately because they still sell out almost every game, and they have the highest revenue in the league...

they will, however, need to start looking at a replacement within the next 10 years for safety reasons... the stadium was renovated in the 70s, yes... this is true. but the foundation of the stadium is still the original foundation from the 1920s. it's a new stadium built on top of an old stadium. they had some foundation problems about 5 years ago or so that forced them to play a couple of home games at shea. hasn't been a problem since, but it's just a matter of time.

i agree with you on giants stadium... i like it too. the seats are a little too close together, but frankly when it's 20 degrees out in december, that's not neccesarily a bad thing.

MSG is fine... they don't need any updates besides a few superficial things.

the devils could really stay in continental, but construction on the newark arena's already begun.. so whatever... they feel they need a city to be identified with. they're kinda in the middle of no man's land right now.

the nets are moving to brooklyn, which has no arena, thus then, they kinda need one.

the mets need one... they'll sell well when they're good, but they get 20,000 or less when they're mediocre or worse. they need a reason besides the team to draw people to the games.

the islanders desperately need one, but there's not enough support for the team to pay for one unless wang builds the whole thing himself.
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I love the Ebbett's Field look to the drawings. Not sure why they need a roof (unless they close it everytime the planes are coming in from that direction).
they've abandoned the retractable roof but will keep the ebbets field motif
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the islanders desperately need one, but there's not enough support for the team to pay for one unless wang builds the whole thing himself.
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they're kinda in the middle of no man's land right now.
Yes...Meadowlands...much like the Pine barons, where the legend of the Jersey Devil began.

Newark is a hole. Meadowlands may be a stinky hole too, but it is a lot more attractive than Newark 9scary as that sounds).

Long live Giants Stadium and friggin cold games close to other Giants fans!

End, I am so glad they're keeping the ebbets feel and gettting rid of the roof. Sounds like a place to enjoy a Mets game (something that is made even more difficult in Shea).
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the plans for the new yankee stadium will be unveiled today. hopefully this stadium will have a retractable roof included... which was in the original plans released a rew years ago...





the reason i want at least one of these new stadiums to have the retractable roof is to that new york can get the final four. the only way for that ot happen is to have a domed stadium... and with the odds of the west side stadium being built getting worse and worse, one of these stadiums will need a retractable roof in order to get it done.

word is the new yankee stadium will cost 200 million (again all paid for by the teams) more than the new mets stadium... so hopefully that extra 200 mill is the cost of the roof.
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The new Mets stadium wont have a retractable roof?
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why does new york have an obsession with retractable roofs? I realize the lure of a Final Four may be behind it but that means that the building must be completely enclosed, taking away from the baseball IMO. It's not like the weather is comparable to seattle or houston where climate makes the need for a roof greater.
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the new mets stadium will not have the roof... and half of all new stadiums built these days have retractable roofs... so i don't know what new york has to do with the idea.

and i just read that word is the yankees, too, will abandon the retractable roof... disapointing, but eh.. whatever.
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The stadia that have a retractable roof are all located in climates where a roof is better to have. Arizona, Milwaukee, Houston, and Seattle have a roof because of heat, cold, rain, etc. Of the new stadia being built, the Marlins and Twins will also have a roof. Again, because of weather. Niether new Busch stadium or the Nationals new Park will have a roof. If you don't need one, then a roof is foolish, only adding to the cost. Why would New York want this? Use the skyline and waterways to make the parks better. They have no reason for a roof.
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The stadia that have a retractable roof are all located in climates where a roof is better to have. Arizona, Milwaukee, Houston, and Seattle have a roof because of heat, cold, rain, etc. Of the new stadia being built, the Marlins and Twins will also have a roof. Again, because of weather. Niether new Busch stadium or the Nationals new Park will have a roof. If you don't need one, then a roof is foolish, only adding to the cost. Why would New York want this? Use the skyline and waterways to make the parks better. They have no reason for a roof.
the teams are paying for the stadiums... if they want a roof or don't want a roof, it's their own decision. these are not publicly financed stadiums... each and every one of the stadiums you just listed there are at least 50% publicly funded, with the exception of the new busch stadium, which is privately financed (only public money is in the form of a loan).
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Point taken, but don't you think it is foolish for a New York team to be even considering a stadium with a roof?
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Of the new stadia being built, the Marlins and Twins will also have a roof.
Not true.

The current plan (that is sitting the Minnesota State Capitol waiting to be voted on) does not have a roof. The County (Hennepin), as well as the Twins, are trying to foot the bill. To save cost (like the Yanks, Mets and everyone else), the first thing that goes is the roof.

With that being said, April and a part of May will SUCK at the new stadium, as well as all the World Series games that will be played there (I remember a week after they won in 1991, we had 20 inches of snow....ON HALLOWEEN). Before the Metrodome (Currently, the WORST MLB stadium), the Twins played outdoors.

As for New York...Look at it this way: no matter how many final fours you can play in a stadium, it would never pay for a roof (retractable).
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the roof was estimated to cost another 200 million dollars on top of the 800 million they're already paying... king george of the bronx and queen fred of.. um... queens didn't feel like footing that extra 200 million... so no roofs on either.

and with no west side stadium, and no roof on the new giants stadium (the giants don't want to loose their homefield advantage... they actually point to the fact that the vikings haven't been back to the super bowl since they moved inside as a reason not to have a roof)... looks like no final four, no super bowl and no olympics for new york
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