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Old 12-23-2006, 12:10 AM   #16
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Hmm, Emma Watson will be in full bloom for the final Potter movie - fuck the book
OH HELL YES x 256,4


she's the next Scarlett.. you know?
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Interesting... Do they touch on that in "Half-Blood Prince"? I remember she stood up for him during the Snape's Worst Memory bit (in OOTP), but that's it.
Well, my theory is based almost entirely on what Dumbledore tells Harry near the end of the last book - that Snape felt horrible remorse when he realised that Voldemort was going after Harry's parents. I think that the remorse only makes sense if it had something to do with Harry's mother, since Snape sure as heck wouldn't shed a single tear about Harry's father.
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My theory is that Snape will die, somehow, to help Harry/Dumbledore. I cannot recall if there was ever a valid reason as to why Snape could never teach defence against the dark arts? I am betting he is unable, either by lack of skill in some way, or for a specific purpose. It's been rather handy having every teacher in that post come to a dramatic finish, but there's got to be more than a half baked reason why Snape is denied the spot. I've been re-reading them again, and if Gilderoy Lockhart, for example, was the teacher once, then there just has to be a reason Snape wasn't. I've always suspected Snape of being a key 'good guy' rather than the bad; thought each is as likely. His position as head teacher of Slytherin is interesting, as he never utilised it in any way. Either Dumbledore has/had a strong hold over him, or he is just not what would be most easily worked into the story.

I can't believe Dumbledore is dead. I dont want to accept that. I'll merrily continue on with my Snape obssession to distract from that; despite what JKR has said. What would she know!
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I dont think Harry will die. I dont think Dumbledore is dead. Nor do I think Snape is evil. I think so much will depend on Hogwarts re-opening, or even Harry, Hermione and Ron enrolling for their last year. The plot seemed to just get too important and busy for them to be at school to finalise everything left hanging at the end of book 6.
I don't think Harry will die either. In an interview with 2 british talk show hosts (I think they're like the Regis and whomever of Britain) last year JK said she'd changed the final chapter and one character had gotten a reprieve, while 2 more had died. I think it's possible Dumbledore was that character, and half of me wants to believe Dumbledore was too smart to be fooled by Snape and Snape isn't evil and even if Dumbledore is dead which i don't want to believe, it's for a good reason. But the other part of me is saying, honey you're in denial, whatch out for crocs.

Even if Hogwarts reopens Hermione and Ron will join Harry. I'd put money on it. (waits for someone to post link to betonharrypotter.com)
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Well, my theory is based almost entirely on what Dumbledore tells Harry near the end of the last book - that Snape felt horrible remorse when he realised that Voldemort was going after Harry's parents. I think that the remorse only makes sense if it had something to do with Harry's mother, since Snape sure as heck wouldn't shed a single tear about Harry's father.
I dunno. If Snape is actually a good guy, then no matter the grudge or even hatred between the two he would certainly feel remorse for the death of 3 people (at that point it looked like Harry would be dying too). If he's not a good guy then the remorse would just have been an act for Dumbledore. I wouldn't rule out feelings for Lily, but there's other reasons.



Angela - speculation on Snape not teaching DoD is that it would tempt him too much. This may be fan speculation or it may be Harry and friends speculating in one of the books, I forget.
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I think both Harry & Voldemort die. If only one dies then there'd be a void in the world. Harry is super good, Voldemort is super bad. It makes sense to me anyway.
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I can't believe Dumbledore is dead. I dont want to accept that. I'll merrily continue on with my Snape obssession to distract from that; despite what JKR has said. What would she know!

I hear that.
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not sure what to think of the last book. I think I'm probably going to have a Harry reading spree right before the new book comes out and read the first 6 again. but I know I don't want to believe that Dumbledore is dead.
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Snape is looking out for himself, working both sides as he sees fit.

Interesting. I've never been on a Potter board or anything, but I've never heard anyone suggest that. Everyone assumes Snape is either pro-Voldemort or anti-Voldemort, never that Snape looks out for Snape. Nice idea.
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All I know is that I'm completely convinced that Draco will die, and that if he doesn't, I will construct an ending of my own where he does die and my theories will infact be correct.

And U2girl, YES - I've always thought this. I don't think Snape is loyal to either side. Just to himself. Even if you look back at him supposedly defecting to the OOtP after the Potters got Avada-d, you can still argue that it was entirely based on a need on his part to ease his conscious - not necessarily because it was 'the right thing to do', etc.
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I had a dream last night that Jo changed the title of the book and it was far better. I forgot it once I woke up. Oh well.

It really is strange to think that this is it...the final book in the series. I basically grew up with Harry Potter. I can't remember when I got my first HP book - 1999 or 2000. Whenever it was, I fell madly in love with Hogwarts and everything related to the wizarding world. The first website I ever bookmarked was mugglenet. I even took part in a pointless online petition opposing the idea that Warner Bros. might get their grubby little fingers on my favourite books. So much for that. My passion for the series has subsided quite a lot, especially when it comes to theories. I gave up on theories after OotP was released. Even so, I'm looking forward to what J.K. Rowling has in store for us.

Who's going to be a dork like me and go to a midnight book release when it finally comes out? I might even dress up as McGonagall.
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*Guy drives by a book store at night before release of Harry Potter 6*

"SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!"

"you...you...son of a bitch!"



Harry's gotta go out in a blaze of glory. I'm also hoping for some more snogging.
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Oh God, that reminds me, LMP. I had OotP spoiled for me by some arsehole on the Internet. I'm not going online AT ALL during the week when the book comes out. I will not relive the dreadful "OMG Sirius dies" ordeal of 2003.
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I don't think Snape is loyal to either side. Just to himself. Even if you look back at him supposedly defecting to the OOtP after the Potters got Avada-d, you can still argue that it was entirely based on a need on his part to ease his conscious - not necessarily because it was 'the right thing to do', etc.
Snape didn't defect to the OotP after the Potters were killed though. In the fourth book Dumbledore testified that Snape switched sides some time before Voldemort's fall and therefore before Harry's parents were killed. I'm also 99% sure that he was the unnamed spy mentioned by Fudge in the third book who tipped off Dumbledore about danger to Potters.

I'm convinced that Snape is on the right side, but I also think that he's anti-Voldemort for purely personal reasons which have little to do with 'the right thing to do'.

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Oh God, that reminds me, LMP. I had OotP spoiled for me by some arsehole on the Internet. I'm not going online AT ALL during the week when the book comes out. I will not relive the dreadful "OMG Sirius dies" ordeal of 2003.
Same here, except for me it was the sixth book and some idiot on the IMDB movie boards posting under "SnapekillsDumbledore" handle,
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I don't think Harry will die either. In an interview with 2 british talk show hosts (I think they're like the Regis and whomever of Britain) last year JK said she'd changed the final chapter and one character had gotten a reprieve, while 2 more had died. I think it's possible Dumbledore was that character, and half of me wants to believe Dumbledore was too smart to be fooled by Snape and Snape isn't evil and even if Dumbledore is dead which i don't want to believe, it's for a good reason. But the other part of me is saying, honey you're in denial, whatch out for crocs.

Even if Hogwarts reopens Hermione and Ron will join Harry. I'd put money on it. (waits for someone to post link to betonharrypotter.com)
I need to state outright here that every prediction or guess I have ever made on Harry Potter has been blatantly and wildly wrong when the new book has subsequently come out

But...I keep coming back to one hard truth. She has always defended these books with this, and it is a strong theme through each, that it is essentially the good beating evil formula - the tried and true age old battle. Also, in a practical sense, each of the books up to this point have taken place over a year and have coincided with his years at school. It stands to reason that this needs to continue, but as we all know, given the ending of the last one, this is going to prove tricky to resume. With that said, though, where else can this battle take place? Will this book be set over a year? How can the school actually close? But how can the school actually re-open? Where, physically, will this next book take place? She has so far given very little detail to any wizarding environment beyond Hogwarts and Diagon Alley and the town. Then there are the key characters which need to continue on, and presumably assist in the coming book; Professor McGonagall, Hagrid, Mr Weasley, and so on. I'd bank on likely victims as being perhaps one significant on each side: say, Lucius Malfoy and Hagrid? Even Draco.
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