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Old 02-23-2007, 08:29 PM   #1
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"Fake" fur coats were made of dog fur

This makes me so mad! I always thought those curled up toy dogs and cats at gas stations looked like they were made of real pet fur though everyone denies it. Now here's proof that name brand and designer coats were made from real domestic dog fur!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_fe_st/dog_fur

Some coats may have fur from dogs

By KASIE HUNT, Associated Press Writer Fri Feb 23, 9:41 AM ET

WASHINGTON - That fur trim on your jacket that you think is fake? Tell it to Fido. An animal advocacy group says its investigation has turned up coats — some with designer labels, some at higher-end retailers — with fur from man's best friend. Some retailers were set scrambling to pull the coats from shelves, take them off Web sites and even offer refunds to consumers.
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The Humane Society of the United States said it purchased coats from reputable outlets, such as upscale Nordstrom, with designer labels — Andrew Marc, Tommy Hilfiger, for example — and found them trimmed with fur from domestic dogs, even though the fur was advertised as fake.

"It's an industrywide deception," said Kristin Leppert, the head of the Human Society's anti-fur campaign.

The investigation began after the society got a tip from a consumer who bought a coat with trim labeled as faux fur that felt real. Leppert and her team began buying coats from popular retailers and then had the coats tested by mass spectrometry, which measures the mass and sequence of proteins, to determine what species of animal the fur came from.

Of the 25 coats tested, 24 were mislabeled or misadvertised.

Three coats — from Tommy Hilfiger's Web site ShopTommy.com, Nordstrom.com and a coat from Andrew Marc's MARC New York line sold on Bluefly.com — contained fur from domesticated dogs. The others had fur from raccoon dogs — a canine species native to Asia — or, in one case, wolves. The single correctly labeled coat was trimmed with coyote fur, but it was advertised as fake.

Most of the fur came from China.

In response to the Humane Society's investigation, Tommy Hilfiger stopped selling the fur-trimmed garment and said it was looking into the matter. "We were quite concerned to hear of this finding," said spokeswoman Wendi Kopsick.

Nordstrom called the 62 consumers who had purchased vests with dog fur trim to give them the opportunity to return the vests "because we would never want to deceive our customers in any way," Nordstrom spokeswoman Brooke White said. She said Nordstrom no longer buys fur trim products from the vendor, who had marketed the vests as faux fur.

Charles Jayson, chief executive of Andrew Marc, disputed the Humane Society and insisted in a statement that all fur on his coats labeled as raccoon contains "only farm-bred raccoon fur from Finland, and our items labeled 'faux fur' are a 100 percent synthetic fabric."

Importing domestic dog and cat fur was outlawed in 2000. Intentionally importing and selling dog fur is a federal crime punishable by a $10,000 fine for each violation. Michael Markarian, executive vice president of the Humane Society, said his group had contacted all the retailers and designers selling mislabeled coats or coats with dog fur.

Raccoon dogs look like oversized, fluffy raccoons and aren't kept as pets. Importing their fur is not illegal, but activists argue they are still a type of dog.

"This is an animal that is routinely killed by stomping them, or beating them, or skinning them alive," Markarian said. Video produced by Swiss Animal Protection and posted on the Internet shows raccoon dogs clubbed or slammed on the ground and some writhing, gasping and blinking as they are skinned alive.

The discovery of domestic dog fur is the latest twist in the investigation that ensnared retail giants Macy's and J.C. Penney late last year. Both of those retailers were discovered selling coats with raccoon dog fur labeled as raccoon.

J.C. Penney initially removed the offending garments from its stores around Christmas — but eventually it had employees scratch out the 'raccoon' label with black magic marker and put the coats back on the shelves. Macy's immediately pulled the items from its shelves.

Burlington Coat Factory also pulled some coats with mislabeled fur from their shelves. Rap artist Sean "Diddy" Combs stopped producing and selling coats from his Sean John line that had raccoon dog fur, and rapper Jay-Z pulled coats with raccoon dog from his Rocawear label.

Mislabeling fur is a misdemeanor punishable by a $5,000 fine or a year in prison. Fur valued at less than $150 is not required to be labeled.

A bill introduced by Reps. Jim Moran, D-Va., and Mike Ferguson, R-N.J., would close that loophole by requiring labels for all fur regardless of its value. It also would ban fur from raccoon dogs.

"Americans don't want Lassie turned into a fur coat," Moran said. "In the U.S., we treat cats and dogs as pets, not trimmings for the latest fashion wear."

Other retailers the Humane Society said sold mislabeled raccoon dog fur included Lord & Taylor, BergdorfGoodman.com and Neiman Marcus.com. Designers whose clothes were mismarked included Donna Karan's DKNY and Michael Kors. A coat from Oscar de la Renta advertised as raccoon had raccoon dog fur.

Neiman Marcus, which owns Bergdorf Goodman, said it removed Bogner and Andrew Marc coats from its Web sites. Michael Kors said it was investigating, and a DKNY spokeswoman said the label was unaware that raccoon dog fur had been used.

Donna Karan's executive vice president for global marketing and communications, Patti Cohen, said, "While it is not illegal to use this type of fur, we have taken measures to ensure that it is never again used for any of our products."

A spokeswoman for Oscar de la Renta declined to comment.


Note that many of the coats were made in China, a place never known for its humane treatment of animals (or people for that matter)



I wonder how much of this is going on and we just don't know?
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:32 PM   #2
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I saw this too. Pretty grim. I'm so happy I don't even like fake fur. It would really creep me out if I though I had fake fur and it turned out to be real. Doesn't even matter what species, if I thought it was fake and it was real I'd be mad as hell.
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I can't stand wearing fur coats of any kind (fake or real) cause it's too bulky for me. I regretted wearing one for my prom (But don't ask me if it was a real one or a fake one cause I didn't know...still don't know)....but after wearing for a long time during the after prom cruise...I felt it was too heavy and donated it.

I don't like fur trimmed coats either cause it's too tacky and disgusting
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But in China, they eat the dog, might as well make some $ off the fur. Waste not, want not.
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But in China, they eat the dog, might as well make some $ off the fur. Waste not, want not.
I Can't think of anyone who would want to wear and or eat it, can you?

I personally dispise fur, so watefull and pointless...
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Besides the obvious thing that it was a doggie, and that they lied about it, other things that piss me off are that China keeps on getting away with everything while other countries are penalized and sanctioned- even attacked- so US companies can get their stuff made for cheaper, thus cutting US workers out of a job and a decent wage. HUGE name companies charging high prices for the prestige of their names were involved. Sure, Walmart and Kmart might employ cheap labor from overseas to cut their prices, but these guys? Famous designers? What a complete disgrace.

Personally I always thought designer clothes were stupid, I mean, charging way more just because it's got a name on it. As long as it looks good and it's not going to fall apart in the washer it's fine with me.

And fur, well I was anti-fur when I was a kid even, getting mad when they gave away fur coats on "Price is Right" and saying if I won I'd tell Bob Barker to his face I didn't want it. I blamed him, then later found out he was secretly an animal rights guy and eventually banned fur from the show! I don't like the look or heavy feel of fur clothing, it's so barbaric, like cavemen who had to wear it because they didn't have anything else. I never understood how it was 'glamorous' for rich fancy people. Ug.

I don't even like fake fur. If it comes around the hood of a plastic parka I'll put up with it as long as it's obviously synthetic. And then still I worry animal activists will throw ink on me thinking it's real. My little girl had a very cute fake fur pink coat and muff, it was obviously made from the same stuff as your average stuffed animal, very man made synthetic. It was like wearing a big stuffed toy.
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Besides the obvious thing that it was a doggie, and that they lied about it, other things that piss me off are that China keeps on getting away with everything while other countries are penalized and sanctioned- even attacked- so US companies can get their stuff made for cheaper, thus cutting US workers out of a job and a decent wage. HUGE name companies charging high prices for the prestige of their names were involved. Sure, Walmart and Kmart might employ cheap labor from overseas to cut their prices, but these guys? Famous designers? What a complete disgrace.

Personally I always thought designer clothes were stupid, I mean, charging way more just because it's got a name on it. As long as it looks good and it's not going to fall apart in the washer it's fine with me.

And fur, well I was anti-fur when I was a kid even, getting mad when they gave away fur coats on "Price is Right" and saying if I won I'd tell Bob Barker to his face I didn't want it. I blamed him, then later found out he was secretly an animal rights guy and eventually banned fur from the show! I don't like the look or heavy feel of fur clothing, it's so barbaric, like cavemen who had to wear it because they didn't have anything else. I never understood how it was 'glamorous' for rich fancy people. Ug.

I don't even like fake fur. If it comes around the hood of a plastic parka I'll put up with it as long as it's obviously synthetic. And then still I worry animal activists will throw ink on me thinking it's real. My little girl had a very cute fake fur pink coat and muff, it was obviously made from the same stuff as your average stuffed animal, very man made synthetic. It was like wearing a big stuffed toy.
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