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Old 01-09-2008, 08:20 PM   #16
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Send me a link to the _definitive_ ExITSky track, and I will give it a fair chance.
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I was interested in these guys, and after checking out a couple of videos on Youtube, I think I will stick with Brian Eno.
I am glad that you base your musical judgements on fan video montages and bootleg recordings of cell phone quality.

Here is an abbreviated version of Your Hand in Mine (with strings) that is featured on the Friday Night Lights soundtrack. Everyone that I have ever played this song for (even folks who are not post-rock fans in any sense) have enjoyed it. It is the closest thing to a 4 minute pop song that you will ever hear from Explosions in the Sky.

http://download. ysi .com/F027B2235E442845

(replace ysi with "you_send_it"... and take out the spacing between you, send, and it)

Then again, the track might not be your cup of tea... if you think that listening to one "definitive" tune or watching transcode youtube videos is giving an artist a fair chance.

If you're still interested after one song, Yasmin The Light would be a good start into the more "verbose" end of their catalogue:

http://download. ysi .com/F027B2235E442845
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that "Your Hand in Mine" version (from the FNL OST) it's breath taking

and EitS have more Metal than another post-rock bands, but I define the sound of this guys as "the classic post-rock sound", thay're good to start into the genre
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I wish I could see them, but it seems they're only doing the West Coast. Hurts even more as a huge fan of them and post-rock in general, as the last time Mogwai played Boston I was out of town
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I wish I could see them, but it seems they're only doing the West Coast. Hurts even more as a huge fan of them and post-rock in general, as the last time Mogwai played Boston I was out of town
I feel your pain. I had to give up tickets to see both Mogwai and Sigur Ros in the same week for a business trip a few years back. Last year I also had to sell my ticket to Arcade Fire/LCD Soundsystem as I was out of town for work as well. I'm just praying that nothing comes up for Explosions. I MUST see them!


I would also like to say that I agree with everything Pinballzwizzer and JackintheBoxer wrote.
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Speaking of bands like Explosions In The Sky and Mogwai...I have a question for post-rock fans. Why do so many of you despise progressive rock? Prog rock fans usually like post-rock (I'm one such fan), but I have seen lots of pure post-rock fans labelling instrumental prog as pretentious, overly long, boring, etc. It just doesn't seem to make sense.

I mean, there is almost absolutely no difference between a song like "Careful With That Axe Eugene" by Pink Floyd and "Like Herod" by Mogwai. Both instrumentals feature driving bass lines, quiet drums, and then a sudden explosion of noise. More importantly, both are completely awesome. And yet, I saw a blog once where a Mogwai fan totally ripped early Pink Floyd to shreds. It really confused me.

Anyway, sorry for going off topic a bit there. It's just something that I've been wondering about for a long time.
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^I agree with this entirely, as I am a fan of both. Really, post-rock is just a later version of progressive rock in my mind. The music is truly fantastic.
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I don't really have anything vehemently against prog-rock its just not as nice to listen to for me, post-rock is beautiful, prog rock is impressive demonstrations of music theory.
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I feel your pain. I had to give up tickets to see both Mogwai and Sigur Ros in the same week for a business trip a few years back. Last year I also had to sell my ticket to Arcade Fire/LCD Soundsystem as I was out of town for work as well. I'm just praying that nothing comes up for Explosions. I MUST see them!


I would also like to say that I agree with everything Pinballzwizzer and JackintheBoxer wrote.
Ouch, that must have been the most painful business trip in history.
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post-rock is beautiful, prog rock is impressive demonstrations of music theory.
By that generalisation, am I to assume that you don't believe there is any beautiful prog music?

Edit: To get back on topic, that version of Your Hand In Mine was incredible.
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I don't really have anything vehemently against prog-rock its just not as nice to listen to for me, post-rock is beautiful, prog rock is impressive demonstrations of music theory.
I guess that's kind of how I feel about prog too. But, I am definitely open to suggestions for beautiful prog rock that is similar to post-rock like EITS or This Will Destroy You.
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I'm not a big prog-rock fan, but I like some bands, songs or albums, for me the main difference is the "feeling" and the execution

in prog-rock is more structurated and more tecnical, and post-rock it's more about the emotions and if you're not a skilled musician it's not big deal
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By that generalisation, am I to assume that you don't believe there is any beautiful prog music?

Edit: To get back on topic, that version of Your Hand In Mine was incredible.
Well, to be honest, I think Pink Floyd is great progressive rock....just not a fan of crap like this...
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I'm not a big prog-rock fan, but I like some bands, songs or albums, for me the main difference is the "feeling" and the execution

in prog-rock is more structurated and more tecnical, and post-rock it's more about the emotions and if you're not a skilled musician it's not big deal
Thanks for the responses, everyone. I guess I kind of expected them...the old "progressive rock is just technical music" argument. While I agree that some progressive bands take the view that their music simply has to be complicated to be appreciated, that's not at all what it's about. JITB, your description of how post-rock differs from conventional rock can actually be applied directly to prog rock. The goal with progressive rock has always been to use conventional four-piece rock instruments in an unconventional way. Prog bands will often take a symphonic approach to composing, with the intention of creating a certain soundscape. Depending on the direction of the song, these soundscapes are often incredibly moving - just like post rock.

And not all prog rock involves showing off. In fact, some of my favourite progressive moments are by no means exceptionally technical. The "Celestial Voices" part of A Saucerful Of Secrets by Pink Floyd, for instance. Or "Epitaph" by King Crimson. Or "Glass Arm Shattering" by Porcupine Tree. The list goes on. I actually hate some of the more technical aspects of progressive rock. The problem is, that's what people focus on when they think of the genre. I think that's such a shame. There's so much more to progressive rock than noodling.

I mean, just watch this. It moves me to tears.

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I get your point GG, but still, in sound you can notice a difference, some post-rock bands in the early days of the genre were classified as prog, bands like Tortoise, but nowadays it's very clear that difference, even in post-rock there are too many kinds, the guys of AfterThePostRock.com tried to do a classification but it was impossible and quit, lol, because post-rock takes sounds of everyone and everything

I think someone in this forum once said that "epic guitars" in post-rock are the anti-solos of prog rock, and that says everything for me

but... yes, post-rock it's like a bastard son of prog, shoegaze, even punk and metal, a real musical orgy

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