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Old 06-02-2007, 08:01 AM   #16
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Lampard - Gerrard does not work.

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Beckham sets up vital England win

David Beckham makes two goals as England ease to a comfortable 3-0 Euro 2008 qualifier win in Estonia.

Joe Cole broke the deadlock after 36 minutes, turning sweetly to volley home Peter Crouch's flick. Crouch doubled England's lead eight minutes after the break when he headed home a superb Beckham cross. Beckham then provided a far post cross for Michael Owen to add England's third after 61 minutes.

England's last two games since Beckham's been back has seen him completely responsible for 3 of their 4 goals. Two of which he did while having an injured ankle today in Estonia. We will most likely see him now for the Germany friendly in August at Wembley and the five other EC qualifiers this Autumn.

England Coach, McClaren, "I think [Beckham] answered everybody with his performance in the last two games," he continued of the Real star.

"Will he be in the next squad? We'll see."

^^^God this guy has got to go.


God Save The Queen and Beckham wearing football's nicest jersey.
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Funny how every England fan I know hates his guts. If Beckham's the saviour, this team has more trouble than I thought!
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Funny, cause the England fans I know appreciate the fact he's back in the team. The fan support at Wembley, Estonia today, and on the internet is proof of that.

The fans that hate him have a personal issue with what Beckham does with his life off the pitch which is unfortunate they mix it up. Not real fans if you ask me.

For me, he leads by example, and gives it his all. England have been shite the 9 matches before he came back and if him coming back helps them win even in the slightest, then we've got nothing to lose. Something is obviously working.
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The Poms needed a scapegoat for how crap they were in last year's World Championship, and they targeted Beckham, even though the over-hyped Lampard was abysmal and Rooney (although injured for the first couple of games), was useless. Beckham was arguably one of the better players.

The Poms and the Ukraine were two of the least deserving World Cup Quarter Finalists in the history of the tournament. Switzerland, Spain, Australia, Holland, Ghana and Ecuador all would have made more worthy Quarter-Finalists last year, but unfortunately these exciting teams fell short.

The reality no one seems willing to accept is that England's World Cup squad was not very good at all. Quite simply, there were at least 10 better World Cup sides out there.
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:52 AM   #21
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Oh my goodness, I was so busy following the hockey finals that I forgot about this game. Good on England, woohoo

They're still 4th so a ways to go yet...
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They were always going to beat Estonia, with or without Beckham...hadn't won a match in the group so really no big surprise there.

We'll see what happens when they come up against some of the bigger teams, there seems to be a real lack of guile in breaking down teams with England.
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Oh my goodness, I was so busy following the hockey finals that I forgot about this game. Good on England, woohoo

They're still 4th so a ways to go yet...
yup, but two big games against russia will be the deciding factor. plus four of their remaining five games are at wembley, so there IS hope.
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On BBC a writer has his predictions set up and from what it looks like, England needs to win 4 and they can get away with 1 draw.

This is totally possible just look at Beckham's last 11 games before he was kicked off the team, they had 9 wins and 2 draws. I'm not saying he is the total catalyst for success, it's a team effort, but they were doing something right when he was in the team. Leadership, confidence?

Sure they aren't winning the crucial match in a quarter of semi final but who else is? There can only be one winner. And touching on some numbers, Beckham in an England shirt since 1996 has him with a competitive 39 wins and only 9 losses. Quite impressive for ten years of service.
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where are you from slipstream, if you don't mind me asking...

not from canada by chance?
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Ex-UK, now Canada.
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:54 PM   #27
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There's just something about Canada isn't it? I'm also Ex- Germany now Canada.
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It's a great place to live and it's certainly more laid-back I feel, well out on the Pacific side of the country anyway. And it seems alot cheaper than the UK.

Now if Canada can just get their football team together!
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I know, the potential for a decent Canadian team is there, so it'll probably happen in a few years. I was surprised Toronto FC has so much support. The fan support is definitely there if the team delivers. It'll be nice to see a few friendlies with some European teams here.
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toronto fc has fantastic support, it's great to see.

i doubt i'd ever cheer for canada over england though.
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