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Old 06-22-2008, 05:25 PM   #436
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Boring game except for the added extra time after 90 mins and penalty kicks - I thought Buffon and Italy would go on but not according to Casillas.
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Excellent! The first time for Spain in 88 years to beat Italy in an important game. Not the best game, but the right team advanced.
Was really worried as penalties are such a lottery.
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Russia should be able to take care of Spain. The Spanish flatter to deceive, if this is how they do against an average Italian team missing it's playmeaker the future doesn't bode well. Congrats to Spain, the better team won on the day, but they seem to lack ideas. There's no real spark to their game, they use 5 passes when 2 might suffice. With Arshavin back and a more mature and confident Russia on more rest, they should be able to beat the Spanish handily.

Turkey's cinderella run is over.

OK, who had Russia v. Germany ? Not me.....
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Iker Casillas is pretty good at stopping balls from going into the net.
Well it is his job
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Just finished watching the game (replay). Did they even broadcast it live here in the US? I couldn't find it on any channel.

Anyway, man... will Italy's bad luck with penalty shootouts ever end??? Every time it's the same story. Remember the USA94 final?

It's such a horrible way to determine the winner. Putting so much weight on the goalkeeper's shoulders and nobody else to help him. I wish there was a better way.
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Anyway, man... will Italy's bad luck with penalty shootouts ever end??? Every time it's the same story.
This is a joke, yes?
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Italy's penalty shootout problems return with quarter-final loss to Spain - Yahoo! News

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Italy's problems with penalties have returned. After winning the World Cup with a shootout victory over France two years ago, the Azzurri are back to the days that saw them eliminated from three consecutive World Cups on spot kicks.
I knew I wasn't imagining it!
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What that article fails to mention is that they advanced in those tournaments on penalties as well. You can't say they have bad luck in penalties, they just won the WC on them. The problem is that they play FOR a shootout. When you do that you're asking for it.
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The problem is that they play FOR a shootout. When you do that you're asking for it.
Well, nobody wants a shootout! It's the worst nightmare for any team to go through! I guess you're talking about their style of play not creating enough scoring opportunities? I don't know. I just remembered their horrible loss in 94. And 90 and 98 as well which I had forgotten about. And of course I had also forgotten that they won 2006 in penalties. lol. But I don't have that good a memory to remember that they also advanced in those tournaments thru penalties.
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To be fair, in one of those penalty losses (1994) the Italy coach inexplicably left a one-legged Roberto Baggio in to take the decisive kick.
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Well, nobody wants a shootout!
I'm convinced Italy want a shootout every time. They certainly don't play to avoid it.

Most of the time it seems like they throw their scruffy beards out on the pitch to play defence for 90 minutes and then try to attack a little in extra time to get their shooting boots warmed up.
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I love penalty shootouts, its the most entertaining part of a dull game. The heart races despite being a neutral.
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I'm convinced Italy want a shootout every time. They certainly don't play to avoid it.
You may want to re-watch the 2006 WC Semi-final, best game of the tournament, both teams playing for a win in regulation.

The 94 WC final saw Italy with more than a few scoring chances, they just were poor upfront, not only Baggio.

Italy's record in penalty shootouts is not very good, they lose more than they win.
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You may want to re-watch the 2006 WC Semi-final, best game of the tournament, both teams playing for a win in regulation.

The 94 WC final saw Italy with more than a few scoring chances, they just were poor upfront, not only Baggio.

Italy's record in penalty shootouts is not very good, they lose more than they win.
Are you going to argue that Italy play attacking football?
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I'm convinced Italy want a shootout every time. They certainly don't play to avoid it.

Most of the time it seems like they throw their scruffy beards out on the pitch to play defence for 90 minutes and then try to attack a little in extra time to get their shooting boots warmed up.
No, no.

Italy's strategy is: get a goal, then pull all 10 men back and pray that the score stays 1-0.
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