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Old 06-21-2008, 02:16 PM   #376
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[QUOTE=last unicorn;5234806. It's sad for the English people that their team couldn't qualify for the Euro, but to make a statement like this is a little ignorant. Other teams and fans have to deal with disappointments as well, you have to be able to lose as well.

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Ive never said once England deserved to be there, we were terrible in qualifying. Croatia and Russia were much better sides. But the numbers England would of came with would of been unrivaled, they would all need to eat, drink and sleep somewhere.
England have been used as a scape goat by the international community for far too long, every incident that arises is blamed on the English, without reason a lot of the time. The police are far to heavy handed on the English because they seem to think there all hooligans.
I would like to remind everyone of the violence the Italian leagues has suffered in the past 2 years, how many deaths was it now ?
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:39 PM   #377
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Come on Oranje, it will take more than a few brilliant Van der Sar saves to go on.
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:09 PM   #378
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Just tuned in as I was out. Holy shit! The Dutch could be in trouble! I didn't realize the Russians were that good!
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:29 PM   #379
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Ive never said once England deserved to be there, we were terrible in qualifying. Croatia and Russia were much better sides. But the numbers England would of came with would of been unrivaled, they would all need to eat, drink and sleep somewhere.
England have been used as a scape goat by the international community for far too long, every incident that arises is blamed on the English, without reason a lot of the time. The police are far to heavy handed on the English because they seem to think there all hooligans.
I would like to remind everyone of the violence the Italian leagues has suffered in the past 2 years, how many deaths was it now ?
Yes, there was violence with other teams as well.
I've never said that all English fans were hooligans, certainly they're not.
Usually, I wouldn't have commented on this issue at all, I just found your statement a little arrogant and a provocation.
I'm always for fair chances for every team, and I want fairness from the team as well as from the fans.
Unfortunatly, fans behaving badly has a bad impact on the team as well, and I think it's wrong to punish a team for its fans' behaviour.
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There may end up being atravesty with Holland after all. That would be if they scrape through.
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EVS has been incredible this game. Clearly the MOM for the Dutch. His defenders have been giving up acres of space in front of him.
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Wow! How close to a penalty was that?
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There may end up being atravesty with Holland after all. That would be if they scrape through.
Russia have been creating plenty of offensive chances (Arshavin especially), but they just can't finish, except for Pavlyuchenko. Same thing happened in their game against Spain. I don't think they've been clearly superior to Holland in this game.
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I don't think they've been clearly superior to Holland in this game.
Are you kidding? The Dutch have been VERY poor today. Too narrow in the attack and absolutely lost in defense.
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Russia have been creating plenty of offensive chances (Arshavin especially), but they just can't finish, except for Pavlyuchenko. Same thing happened in their game against Spain. I don't think they've been clearly superior to Holland in this game.
Yes, they have. Only a Dutchman would think they've been even.
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Wow. Couldn't they talk Jaap Stam out of retirement?
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I'm SHOCKED that they didn't bring Robben on. They've had an advantage on crosses all day, and he's one of their best crossers of the ball. Van Basten has not managed this game well at all.
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Holy shit! What a goal at the last min!!! Perfect tap in!
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