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Old 06-11-2005, 11:11 AM   #406
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The Yankees have handled the Twins in the playoffs...I can't find regular season series records, but I believe they have been split pretty evenly (at least over the last few years).

HEY, I know....lets not dwell on the Yankees anymore. Let's be happy that the Mets, Twins and Cards can beat them. Let's focus on the who is doing well - like the O's, Cards, Twins, Gnats, Angels, Padres, Cubs, Sox x 2, etc.

I have to say, the majority of the posts in this thread has something to do with the Yankees. I say, let's move on. Crap, we would NEVER dwell on the Devil Rays sucking so bad for this long. I say let's just let the Yankees suffer for once and focus on the positives. Go NL East!
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The Yankees have handled the Twins in the playoffs...I can't find regular season series records, but I believe they have been split pretty evenly (at least over the last few years).

2004: 4-2
2003: 7-0
2002: 6-0

so for 02, 03 and 04 the Yankees in the regular season were 17-2 against the Twins. Not that even


but i agree with the rest of your post, no point in really focusing on the yankmees when there are many more exciting and GOOD teams out there this year.
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where did you find that (obviously better at finding sports stats than me)? Well, I see a positive trend though.


I am stuck watching the Cards game (check your local listings - and see how I did not even mention the team they are playing). At least they could be doing right now is winning (the cards). Nice double play to end the half-inning there.
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where did you find that (obviously better at finding sports stats than me)? Well, I see a positive trend though.


I am stuck watching the Cards game (check your local listings - and see how I did not even mention the team they are playing). At least they could be doing right now is winning (the cards). Nice double play to end the half-inning there.
haha, yeah, and im stuck watching the cubs game. wanna switch local listings please? i hate that i have the extra innings ticket but i dont get any saturday day games on it because of fox game of the week. oh well.

and as for the stats, check out

www.baseball-reference.com

easily the best baseball stats site out there. they dont do the current season until the season ends, but for all seasons past, they have it all.
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yes...being in connecticut with the Sox makes sense...Can we change local listing?

Cards are up in the bottom of the eighth - down 4-0 and Nunez just led off with a first punch single.

RALLYTIME - come on Cards.

Last time they showed, didn't look so good for the Cubs.
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cubbies took the lead.

yeah, its weird sometimes though in connecticut, ill get yankee and met games over red sox games on these saturday game of the weeks. guess whichever they decide to pick for that week.

good old Mlb gamecast from the cards website works i guess.
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David Wright OHHHH, David Wright
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i can live with david wright making costly errors a hell of a lot more than i can live with kaz matsui doing it.

wright's going to be the cornerstone of this franchise for years to come... but he's 22 years old. he's going to make mistakes... and yesterday's mistake was costly.

but so far he's honestly been our most consistant hitter... so hey... ya gotta deal with the growing pains, but it'll all be worth it when he's a career .300-30-100 guy, and the first time in mets history that they can say that thirdbase is set (three years of hojo not withstanding)
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Old 06-13-2005, 07:43 AM   #414
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I agree Headache. He's won more games for us than he's lost. There have been a handful of games so far where no one in the lineup could hit, but he did and won us a few. That error yesterday was just painful though, given the score and inning.
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oh i know how painful it was... i was at the game.



apparently jimmy rollins is worth 47.5 million
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yes a career .269 average warrants that type of money.
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if jimmie rollins is worth 47.5 million i figure i gotta be good for at least 10 thousand.
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when teams like the yankees, red sox, and mets give out bloated contracts (see Renteria) those are the contracts other players use as a starting point in their negotiations. Because Renteria signed for 10 million, then Cabrera thinks he should get 8 million, and then Rollins gets this deal.

When in reality Renteria probably should have gotten 8 million per year, then Cabrera would have gotten 6, and Rollins deal would have been less.

So when people say, oh its ok for these teams to overspend because it doesnt effect them much, I don't buy it because it effects every other team trying to negotiate with players. And then you end up with a 10 million dollar .265 hitter, an 8 million .239 hitter, and guy hitting .267 getting a 47 million dollar deal.

i remember a time when 10 million could buy you a little more than that.
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i agree to a point... the biggest problems when it comes to bloated payroll are the yankees and the devil rays.

the yankees pay way too much, the devil rays pay way too little.

the red sox in turn pay a fortune to match the yankees.

the mets then over-pay for players because it's the only way they can get the players to pick the mets over the yankees.

and then it trickles down about halfway through the league.


but then you have the devil rays, who only put a 29 million dollar team on the field, despite getting millions in revenue sharing dollars from the yankees, red sox, mets and other high salary teams, and just pocket the money rather than spending it to improve their teams.

baseball needs a max salary cap as well as a minimum.

but the MLBPA is the strongest union in america... thus then, it'll never happen.
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when teams like the yankees, red sox, and mets give out bloated contracts (see Renteria) those are the contracts other players use as a starting point in their negotiations. Because Renteria signed for 10 million, then Cabrera thinks he should get 8 million, and then Rollins gets this deal.
Teams are overpaying for shortstops nowadays, the position used to be all about defense, the days of Bert Campeneris, Davy Concepcion, Mark Belanger, Rick Burleson, and others...teams didn't look to the position for offense. Not today, its become a high profile offensive position.
It all goes back to Aroid and Jeter however for this current SS salary spiral.
ARod gets his ridiculous deal and The Yanks give Jeter 18Mil/yr. Tejada then gets his 15mil/yr from the O's (possibly the only one who is worth his salary relatively speaking in the bunch).
So now Nomahh feels snubbed when offered a $60 mil/4yr extension with the Red Sox in spring 2004. So he has to be moved, the Sox then need a SS to replace him and get Renteria at $10 mil/yr, when he is probably valued a bit less, but for the Sox its a bargain cause they had planned to commit 15 mil a year to the position for Nomar, and are lucky he didn't sign cause his body is breaking down. But this then elevates the market value of Cabrera and Rollins and manages to allow even the likes of David Eckstein to strike a deal.
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