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Old 07-08-2008, 07:56 AM   #181
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If the next album is just Edge reciting Pi, Bono reading the phone book, Adam giving a lecture on spoonology, and Larry repeatedly mumbling "fuck off and die", U2 could still play arenas in the US and stadiums in Europe.


Also, trying to appeal to EVERYBODY will fuck you up.
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U2 never ever needs to worry about pulling a live crowd. Sure, a few shit albums and they would probably have to tone things down to arenas, but they could still tour very profitably to very enthusiastic audiences.
I need to grill Bono about the exact provisions of this so-called "two crap albums" rule.
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Also, trying to appeal to EVERYBODY will fuck you up.
Yep. I think it's kind of ridiculous to try to consciously work to be the biggest band anyway. Look at JT. U2 wouldn't have expected that to suddenly make them the biggest band in the world. WOWY was at the time a very unconventional choice for lead single. Some albums just capture the public imagination and you can't manufacture that sort of thing.
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I need to grill Bono about the exact provisions of this so-called "two crap albums" rule.
Given the fact they're currently about to release a new album, I think it must have just been meaningless hyperbole.
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Yep. I think it's kind of ridiculous to try to consciously work to be the biggest band anyway. Look at JT. U2 wouldn't have expected that to suddenly make them the biggest band in the world. WOWY was at the time a very unconventional choice for lead single. Some albums just capture the public imagination and you can't manufacture that sort of thing.
Maybe I'm just tired but that kinda made me go like this
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i do thta and drink too much, smoke, do weed and drive too fast. and i drink hot chocolate with 2 sugars and 2 marshmallows.

im bankin on 2 years to live.
Sugar AND marshmallows?! You reckless fool!!
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Yep. I think it's kind of ridiculous to try to consciously work to be the biggest band anyway. Look at JT. U2 wouldn't have expected that to suddenly make them the biggest band in the world. WOWY was at the time a very unconventional choice for lead single. Some albums just capture the public imagination and you can't manufacture that sort of thing.
The Fly was an unconventional choice. Numb was, too. Pop was ALL unconventional (for U2, at least). I dunno the order of their other singles releases (well, I'm guessing Pride was first off UF), but either something changed towards unconventional first singles, and/or it changed back again in the '00s.



Oh yeah. Getting niiiice and cynical about the new album again.
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The Fly was an unconventional choice. Numb was, too. Pop was ALL unconventional (for U2, at least). I dunno the order of their other singles releases (well, I'm guessing Pride was first off UF), but either something changed towards unconventional first singles, and/or it changed back again in the '00s.



Oh yeah. Getting niiiice and cynical about the new album again.
Can someone please explain to me what was unconventional about Pop?
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The Fly was an unconventional choice. Numb was, too. Pop was ALL unconventional (for U2, at least). I dunno the order of their other singles releases (well, I'm guessing Pride was first off UF), but either something changed towards unconventional first singles, and/or it changed back again in the '00s.



Oh yeah. Getting niiiice and cynical about the new album again.
OK, time to show off my nerdiness. U2's lead singles:

Boy: A Day Without Me
October: Gloria
War: New Year's Day
UF: Pride
JT: WOWY
RAH: Desire
AB: The Fly
Zooropa: Numb (Stay being the only "true" single except in Australia, where Lemon also got a CD release)
Pop: Discotheque
ATYCLB: Beautiful Day
HTDAAB: Vertigo

It seems to me that in the eighties, the selections were based on what they expected to do well on radio, except WOWY. The nineties was about pushing limits, though given The Fly hit #1 in the UK, it can't have been THAT out there in the context of the time. Then we've gone not just to those that will do well on radio, but those that pack the most catchiness into the shortest time.
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Given the fact they're currently about to release a new album, I think it must have just been meaningless hyperbole.
It must have been, whether or not you think they've already released two crap albums. I still want to pin him down and ask him exactly how they're going to judge whether an album is crap. If they think it's crap while they're making it, one would hope they wouldn't release it. And every album they have released is their best so far, if you listen to Bono. What are they going to go by, album sales? It's going to go platinum no matter what. Even if it gets shit reviews, people will buy it out of curiosity. (Well, maybe they'd download it out of curiosity, I dunno.) But shitloads of people will buy it, no matter what the reviews say.

Presumably, they don't mean albums that they consider crap in retrospect, or they would have quit by now.

It means nothing!! Damn you, Bono, and your hyperbole.

(Incidentally, I thought that word was pronounce "hyper-bowl" until a few years ago. Whoops.)
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It must have been, whether or not you think they've already released two crap albums. I still want to pin him down and ask him exactly how they're going to judge whether an album is crap. If they think it's crap while they're making it, one would hope they wouldn't release it. And every album they have released is their best so far, if you listen to Bono. What are they going to go by, album sales? It's going to go platinum no matter what. Even if it gets shit reviews, people will buy it out of curiosity. (Well, maybe they'd download it out of curiosity, I dunno.) But shitloads of people will buy it, no matter what the reviews say.

Presumably, they don't mean albums that they consider crap in retrospect, or they would have quit by now.

It means nothing!! Damn you, Bono, and your hyperbole.
BONO'S HYPERBOLE = OWNED.

But yeah, it seems the only way you can read it is "two albums that do badly on the charts", since they'd not release an album they don't like in the first place. And if that's their mentality, then that's nothing short of pathetic, hyper-commercialised bollocks.

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(Incidentally, I thought that word was pronounce "hyper-bowl" until a few years ago. Whoops.)
Ha, I don't think I was corrected on that until last year.
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It must have been, whether or not you think they've already released two crap albums. I still want to pin him down and ask him exactly how they're going to judge whether an album is crap. If they think it's crap while they're making it, one would hope they wouldn't release it.
well we've already lost a few good songs that way though, that somehow found their way into the public's hands anyway, the band for inexplicable reasons finding them to be crap, the public, enjoying them quite a bit.
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Ha, I don't think I was corrected on that until last year.
I used to pronounced it hyper - BOWL- e
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Can someone please explain to me what was unconventional about Pop?
....

*thinks*

I guess it was outside U2's perceived genre, with the drum machines and electronic dancey kinda stuff. And that Village People thing...

It was DIFFERENT, I suppose. And I'm not the best one to ask, since I wasn't a fan when it came out, so I have no idea what the general reaction was.

It doesn't sound unconventional to me now, but I don't know if that's just because I've listened to it so much, or because it would fit if they released it now. I've been thinking of calling TripleJ's request show (Australian "youth" radio station, they play a lot of indy/new/alternative music... they dropped U2 off their playlist like hot potatoes after BD came out, but you still hear some mainstream/widely successful acts like RHCP and Radiohead and even Coldplay), and asking them to play a track off Pop and see if anyone notices that it's a) U2, and b) ten years old.
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