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Old 05-21-2007, 12:57 PM   #136
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So we're still looking for one more person it seems, perhaps two. I'm not sure if we'll get it or not. Any ideas for getting this thing underway?
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And really, Peter Gabriel never went over to pop as much as Collins. Nowhere near it. His last album, Up, is as far from the mainstream as anything you'll hear.
Indeed. People who think that Peter Gabriel is a pop songwriter has obviously never heard Intruder or Darkness.
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And Zoots, you have to remember that Phil Collins was the drummer for Genesis first, and after Gabriel left, he took over the vocal duties. They were still "prog" (I guess you'd say) up until that S/T album. We stopped listening after that.

And Peter Gabriel had at least 3 solo albums in the 70s. 'Security' came out in the early 80s, and the big 'hit' there was 'Shock The Monkey'. Before that, you might recognize 'Solsbury Hill'. Maybe you heard 'Games Without Frontiers' from the 3rd solo. I'd name a few more, but I figure it's pointless
In all honesty, Tony Banks should get a lot of the blame for where the band went. Phil's drumming remained unique but what didn't was Tony's keyboards. I don't think he was ever the same after Steve Hackett's departure. If anything Phil Collins is what kept the prog going as long as it did.

Solsbury Hill, Games, Shock The Monkey, Sledgehammer and In Your Eyes are about as pop-ish as Mama and Home By The Sea. Gabriel has always had a knack for great chorus's and I think people confuse that for being pop-ish. Plus the rest of those albums are unbelievably unique. Lila, didn't he release No Self Control as well? That's very pop-ish.

There seem to be three kinds of Genesis fans: those who really love Phil Collins, those who really love Peter Gabriel and those who long for more Britannia. I'm among the latter.
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I was considering Ogre Battle most seriously, just because it's so ridiculous and fun that I thought it would provide a good change in mood for my tracklist. But, alas, you can only fit so much into 4 hours.

And Bicycle Race! That song has so many nostalgic memories for me, as my father played it all the time when we went to visit my grandparents ... until his car's cassette player ate the cassette while we were crossing the Rimutaka Ranges and were 30 minutes from any half-decent radio reception! Funny how that era of cassettes, eaten tapes, and shitty radio reception not far from a large city feels like an entirely different time now.

Though your mention of its musical complexity is making me now wish I had Dream Theater's The Dance Of Eternity on my tracklist. 91 changes between 17 time signatures in 6.5 minutes? Oh yes!

PS WTF happened in the Super 14 final!! Holy shit!
Ogre Battle is a good one too. Reversed drums + ogre men + screaming + gongs = a song that wins a hundred times over.

I miss the days of cassettes and eaten tapes. You're right, it feels like a completely different era. Those long trips between Natal and the Western Cape just wouldn't be the same these days without the cassette getting stuffed up in the tape deck. The frustration of having to stick your index finger into the little holes in order to wind up the tape again was half the charm!


And argh, I wish I could have seen the final...even though the Sharks lost by a hair! I saw highlights on YouTube and it looked like a fucking amazing match. It's funny, the last rugby match I ever saw in the flesh was between the Sharks and the Bulls at Kings Park. The Sharks lost then too. It wasn't anything like the quality of the match on Saturday though.
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By the way, Lila, thanks again for sending me those Kayak tracks. I just can't stop listening to Trust In The Machine. I have to find some way to fit it into my list.
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I don't know about "really love" but I'm definitely in that category! Granted, I've heard almost nothing of Gabriel's Genesis.

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The frustration of having to stick your index finger into the little holes in order to wind up the tape again was half the charm!


I remember my tapes would sometimes get dirt accumulated in them over time, and the spools would get really heavy making it almost impossible to rewind or fast forward, or even play. I had this old Panasonic mono tape recorder which seemed to have a really high speed rewind for some reason. I would spin my tapes in there and that would get rid of the dirt or whatever and loosen the spools.
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I'm finished.

Unfortunately, I have no idea how it'll go over. The concept is...unique to say the least.
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The uniqueness of everyone's playlist is what will make this really cool. I won't care if I don't get a single vote - just being able to make it up, and see what others create, as well as perhaps getting exposed to some things not previously knowing well, is the rewarding part of this.
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Granted, I've heard almost nothing of Gabriel's Genesis.
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Ogre Battle is a good one too. Reversed drums + ogre men + screaming + gongs = a song that wins a hundred times over.

I miss the days of cassettes and eaten tapes. You're right, it feels like a completely different era. Those long trips between Natal and the Western Cape just wouldn't be the same these days without the cassette getting stuffed up in the tape deck. The frustration of having to stick your index finger into the little holes in order to wind up the tape again was half the charm!


And argh, I wish I could have seen the final...even though the Sharks lost by a hair! I saw highlights on YouTube and it looked like a fucking amazing match. It's funny, the last rugby match I ever saw in the flesh was between the Sharks and the Bulls at Kings Park. The Sharks lost then too. It wasn't anything like the quality of the match on Saturday though.
I'm still seriously thinking of adding Ogre Battle. I have a couple of songs that I may remove ... this is really so agonisingly hard.

I still remember the nervousness of putting an old and over-played cassette into the player, wondering whether this would be its last spin before it got eaten and mangled for good. And I remember the days of copying tapes - having to play the whole bloody thing to get it to copy onto another tape! I hate to think how much bloody time would have been spent making one of our Desert Island compilations back in the cassette era.


The last 10 minutes of that Super 14 final must've been heart-in-your-mouth/heart attack material for Sharks and Bulls fans. I just cannot believe that final try by Habana. That guy scares the shit out of me, simply because he seems capable of creating tries when no reasonable - or even faint and totally unreasonable - opportunity exists. The All Blacks damn well better shut him down in the Tri-Nations! Oh oh oh, and did you see GEORGE GREGAN HAS LOST THE WALLABIES CAPTAINCY! I just about threw a party, especially because they gave it to monkey man Phil "I'm the missing link in the evolutionary chain" Waugh! The Wallabies are doomed.
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I keep thinking I'm done, and then I find something else I'd like to include.

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I'm very interested in learning more about the prog genre, and excited to see what everyone comes up with.



I believe I fit into the really loves Peter Gabriel category of Genesis fans...although, I need more Genesis
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I went back through the thread and we've got 10 interested people outside of the 7 contestants and Brau who will secretly listen to the playlists behind an alter. We could have 20-30 people voting in this. This is more than I was honestly expecting.

On a different note, I'm watching the Classic Album documentary of Dark Side Of The Moon. I've seen it a dozen times but it still fascinates me every time.
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This is tedious work ripping CD
I told hubby he'll have to register here and chat with you guys. Or not, hehehee.

List isn't made, just ripped a ton of tracks so far
Some I like and haven't heard in a while. Used to hear this stuff a lot working in a record store with guys who likes all this prog stuff. I may have to sneak a few CDs out to listen to once this is over

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