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Old 10-23-2006, 08:55 PM   #436
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is bugger the same as shit hopper?

noo shit hopper is awesome!!!!

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If I could ban a two-word phrase from the English language, any two-word phrase, I would pick one in particular immediately and without hesitation. No, not "Bush administration," because experience has sadly proven that ignoring that phrase doesn't make its subject go away (ditto "Hilton sisters"). No, it's a far more innocuous-sounding collection of syllables, but I could live a long and happy life if I never heard them again, to wit: "Which exit?"

It isn't funny. It just isn't, and I'll tell you why. It's not not funny in the sense that New Jersey natives have no sense of humor about ourselves or our state; when the rest of the world thinks your home is all gigantic hair and hypodermics on the beach, you kind of have to find a way to laugh about it. But it's one thing to bust on Jersey if you grew up there, because you know what the hell you're talking about. "Which exit?" tells me right away that you don't, because -- which exit off of which road?

Yeah, yeah, you "meant the Jersey Turnpike." First of all, it's not "the Jersey Turnpike." It's just "the Turnpike." Second of all, not every goddamn residential dwelling in the state faces onto it. Look, people: owning The Sopranos on DVD and really liking the song "Thunder Road" does not equal "knowing anything about Jersey," and when you think it does, you annoy the natives. Greatly.

Sorry, jeez! So, if I take the Jersey Turnpike to the house where you grew up --

"The Turnpike." It's just "the Turnpike."

Sorry. So, I take the Turnpike to…Interstate 78? Right? And then Route 124 to --

Okay, stop. It's just "78." In L.A., everyone calls it "the 10" and "the 2," but we don't do that. It's just the number, or "Route [number]." So it's the Turnpike to 78 West to 124, or the Turnpike to 22 West.

And how would I get to the New Jersey shore?

You mean down the shore? Various ways; the shore is big. Start by taking the Parkway, usually.

And once I'm at the shore --

"Once you're down the shore," you mean.

Uh…huh?

You go down the shore, and once you're there, you're…down the shore. I don't know why, it's just how we say it. Actually, it's more like "downashore," but whatever.

But I shouldn't go to the beach, right? Because of all the needles?

I have never seen a needle on a Jersey beach. That's not to say that they aren't there; I've just never seen one. I've seen needles on Cape Cod beaches several times, but the biggest issue I've had on Jersey beaches is a jellyfish warning. Which I should have heeded, but that's a story for another time.

Okay, good to know. So what's with the "bennies go home" bumper stickers?

Heh. I didn't know they still made those. Nobody seems to know where the word "bennies" comes from, but basically it's year-rounders telling the obnoxious house-share people to get bent.

Wow. Tough crowd in Joisey.

Okay: no. If you remember nothing else, please please remember this: "Joisey" is a Brooklyn pronunciation. We don't talk like that. Don't say it that way, or write it that way. Ever.

Excuse me, then: "Tough crowd in New Jersey."

It's…just "Jersey." Sometimes it's "Jerz" or "the Jerz" or "New Jerz," but it's usually just "Jersey."

So what is a Jersey accent, then?

Ray Liotta in GoodFellas has a classic Jersey accent, but it depends on where in the state you are. A North Jersey accent is a bit different from a South Jersey accent.

But…the state is tiny. How can it have two different accents?

It's tiny, but it's two different states, sort of. The north is what everyone thinks of as the "real" Jersey with the refineries and the towns all crammed together and whatnot; the south is more farmland, and the Pine Barrens, and so on.

"Farmland"? That's a joke, right?

Oy. Look, contrary to popular belief, it's not called "the Garden State" as a joke. Jersey is something like fifty percent arable land. The Pine Barrens is a forest, and it's big. The Watchung Reservation, which you can see from my parents' front porch, is horse trails and trees with a road running through it, and it's a fifteen-minute bike ride to a U.S. Open championship golf course. If all you see is the view out the window on the Parkway, yeah, it looks like a concrete hell, but the state is really pretty. Go through the Delaware Water Gap sometime; it's a nice drive.

Anyway. In the southern part of the state, you can still find people who believe in the Jersey Devil down there; it's where that legend originated.

That's an actual thing?

According to the guys on the front porch of the Kingston General Supply Store, it is. But…obviously it isn't. It's something colonial farmers made up to explain why their livestock kept getting eaten; apparently, "wolf" was too obvious for them.

I don't understand jughandles.

It's really not that difficult, but everyone's a comedian all "what's the deal with airline peanuts" about them, so let me try to explain. You know how, when you exit a highway, you peel off to the right, and then you loop back around to the left to go into the town or whatever? Same exact principle, just on a smaller scale. On some Jersey roads, allowing turns from the left lane would back traffic all the way up to hell, so: jughandle. They're quite handy.

Maybe if you're used to all those crazy Jersey dri--

We don't drive that badly. Really. This is a fifteen-year-old statistic so I should probably hunt up a newer one, but as of 1990, Jersey had the third-lowest rate of traffic deaths in the 48 contiguous states -- with the most paved roads per hectare, or whatever. Which means that, given how crowded it is, we drive quite safely. Your best bet when driving in Jersey: move it or lose it. It's the pokey Pennsylvanians that tend to gum everything up, so step lively, and we're not kidding around with our left lane -- if you can't hack it, move over.

Well, if you're such awesome drivers, how come they don't let you pump your own gas?

I think it's because of how much road there is, and how many gas stations there therefore are, in the state, but I don't rightly know. It's annoying, that I do know.

Is Newark really a big scary shithole?

So glad you asked! No. It isn't Mayberry, but it isn't the gold standard of dangerous crappy urban blight, either. It has a spiffy arts center and great restaurants, and an inexpensive and convenient (if often hilariously incompetent) minor-league team right near the train. (Awesomely, the Bears do not sell foam fingers, but rather foam bear paws. Hee.) The go-to shithole in New Jersey is Camden, which is maybe not a fair categorization any longer, but as of ten years ago…yikes.

So, a lot of Mafia there, then?

A lot of crack addicts, is the problem in Camden.

The Mafia is not really something most Jerseyans deal with in their day-to-day lives. We all knew a couple kids who had pagers before anyone besides doctors carried them, and when that one girl's dad and boyfriend each bought her a Beemer for her birthday? Yeah, her dad was not "in paper" and her 35-year-old boyfriend was not "in dental supply." But it had nothing to do with us. I mean, I went to a girls' school; we didn't do a lot of illegal gambling or construction work.

But you listened to a lot of Bon Jovi.

Well, if it was on the radio.

You're from Jersey and you don't like Bon Jovi? Do you not like Springsteen either?

Okay, honestly, this is like asking a Californian if she "likes" the Pacific. It's not a like/dislike issue. It's…just there. Sure, some Californians -- the ones who surf, I'd imagine -- are going to actively love the Pacific, and some Jerseyans actively love the Boss. But for some of us, he's…just there.

Bon Jovi is really not as strongly identified with Jersey, in a weird way. It's more of a time-period thing than a Jersey thing -- like, we'll happily claim Bruce and Sinatra, but mention Bon Jovi to us and we're kind of like, "Oh, this is about the hair, isn't it. Okay, fine." We didn't really decide he was A Jersey Emblem; everyone else did, because of the perm. I mean, yeah, we all listened to their music, because everyone did, because they had two huge albums in a row and were all over MTV.

Yeah, about the hair…

I don't think I understand how we ended up holding the big-hair bag. Texas? Hello? Don't get me wrong, I have attended heavy-metal battles of the bands in Union (and I guarantee you, the North Jersey readers just went, "Ohhhhh man," because…ohhhhh man), and no question, that's the biggest hair I've ever seen, not counting Patti LaBelle. Double-process perm, back-combed, ten minutes -- not spritzes, minutes -- of Aqua Net at the roots? Sure. Light a match in the ladies' and it's a Michael Bay movie.

But I've seen that hair in Philly, too. And Augusta. And Cleveland. And upstate New York, like, two years ago. I myself sported the fetching (read: "ridiculous") Ocean-Spray-wave bangs, but we didn't really do the big foofy poodle hair at my school or around my town. A few girls did, the girls who drove Camaros and had married boyfriends and got permission to smoke at school from their parents. It was like Bon Jovi in that it wasn't a function of Jersey; it was a function of the eighties. When the eighties ended, so did that hair.

See, here's the thing. We had TV. We had magazines. New York is right there. It's not like Jersey doesn't know what's going on. A lot of the stuff we catch shit for, everyone else does or did -- and worse.

So…you didn't work in a mall?

No, I worked as a gravedigger in order to subvert the stereotype. Duh, of course I worked in a mall. I was sixteen, I lived near a mall, I wasn't really qualified to do anything else yet besides straighten t-shirts -- so I worked at a mall store, like half the teenagers in America. I mean, they've got malls in Florida. I've seen them. But Floridians get the dipshit questions about Disneyworld, I guess, and we get the mall question. And yes, my friends worked there too, and yes, I would time my break to coincide with my boyfriend's break and we'd meet at the Mrs. Field's. Yes, I am a Jersey cliché. Happy now?

I also worked at a church, and for a lobbyist organization, and as a pool tester. My question is whether people from the Minneapolis area get the mall crap, because you can see that mall from space, but I bet they don't. I bet they get the "cold enough for ya?" thing, and everyone trying to do the accent from Fargo, and Jerseyans get the mall thing.

I mean, see above. The whole country's got malls, and bad hair, and crappy driving, and pollution. We just get "the credit" for that stuff for some reason. The fact that we also coughed up Thomas Edison doesn't seem to count for anything. Or WFMU. Or Weird NJ. Come on, people. At least try to see the good.

I'm from California, and I think our tomatoes --

Just…stop right there. They're not better. They're just not. Find me a person with a California tomato tattooed on his or her person. Yeah, I didn't think so.

A Jersey beefsteak tomato is the apotheosis of tomato-ness. If you don't agree, you've never eaten one in season. This is not up for debate or alternative interpretation. The Jersey tomato is the best tomato in the world. Period.


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Southern NJ

1. Take a Drive
2. Go to the Shore
3. Icing
4. Soda
5. Hoagie
6. Beep the Horn
7. Pizza
8. Snow Sticks on the ground
Other Parts of NJ

1. Take a Ride
2. Go to the Beach
3. Frosting
4. Pop
5. Sub or Hero
6. Honk the Horn
7. Tomato Pie
8. Snow Lays on the ground

This is the best one i've seen so far:

water (wooder) = H2O, that clear wet liquid stuff. Although "wooder" is the most common South Jersey pronunciation, some of us pronounce it "worter."

crayon (crown) = As in the famous Crayola Brand. Some South Jersyians refer to any of the sixty-four shades as "crowns". Some people may get confused when they go to color the king's crown with the blue "crown".

Florida (Flarda) = The home of Mickey Mouse and pals! People in SJ tend to pronounce the "o-r" as in the word "or" as "r-r" as in the word "are".

orange (areange) = Would you care for a banana or an orange? This is the same case as the pronunciation of the word Florida. The "o-r" sounds more like "r-r".

dog (dawg) = Many New Jerseyians insert an "aw" into this word. In most cases, referring to the pooch by its given name would sound much better, unless of course his name is "Oggy Doggy."

route (rewt) = A specific line of travel one takes when trying to reach a certain destination. As a former employee of the US Postal Service, I'd say there's a split in pronunciation. Some do say "rewt" but just as many say "rout," which sounds like "out."

towel (tail) = The item you use to dry yourself after you "get a shower". This is one of those words in which you can hear our nasal South Jersey twang. It is more pronounced in some than in others.

chocolate (chocklit) = Nestle & Hershey, those yummy candy bars we can't live without. Has anyone seen that older commercial for Nestle's Quick? I think it had a little brown "daawwwg" puppet in it. It went like this: "N E S T L E S, Nestles makes the very best "chaaawwwwwklit!"

color (keller) = Such as in rainbows, paints, & crayons. These make our lives so much brighter.

coffee (cawfee) = The brown rich delicious aromatic blend that we mix with "wooder" to get us going in the morning. This word is kind of like "dawg." Some of us draw it out more so than others.

sausage (sossedge) = Most of us say "sossedge;" however, a good amount of us also say "saaawwwwsedge," just as we say "dawg" & "cawfee."
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