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Old 04-15-2008, 09:37 PM   #586
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But that's the beauty of it. Songs that would not normally have a chance get a shot to advance.
Yeah, but that happens in namkcuR's Radiohead Survivor format too, and it avoids ridiculous and essentially meaningless match-ups.

That's my problem. Two songs, head-to-head, is never as good as chronologically organised groups.
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And while we're at it, I'll create locations for the match-ups just like the NCAA Tourney has, only they'll be Bowie related.

The Final Four has to be in Berlin, I imagine.
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It's gotta be in space, Bret. In space.
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And that doesn't happen in other survivors?
I don't think to quite the same extreme. At least it has some logic to whatever bizarre rounds may occur. This is just the luck of the seeding.
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Yeah, but that happens in namkcuR's Radiohead Survivor format too, and it avoids ridiculous and essentially meaningless match-ups.

That's my problem. Two songs, head-to-head, is never as good as chronologically organised groups.
But more people get exposed to his music and in the end it is a celebration of his genius and creativity. Two songs show off how inventive he really is.
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And while we're at it, I'll create locations for the match-ups just like the NCAA Tourney has, only they'll be Bowie related.

The Final Four has to be in Berlin, I imagine.
Freecloud, The Labyrinth and Mars would be great locations.
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Here's a wildly simplified example of what I'm getting at here. Basically, what makes more sense:

1980-83:
- I Will Follow
- Twilight
- The Electric Co.
- Gloria
- Rejoice
- Tomorrow
- Sunday Bloody Sunday
- New Year's Day
- Like A Song

1984-89
- A Sort Of Homecoming
- The Unforgettable Fire
- Bad
- Streets
- WOWY
- One Tree Hill
- Heartland
- God Part II
- All I Want Is You

OR

I Will Follow vs ASOH
Twilight vs The Unforgettable Fire
The Electric Co. vs Bad
Gloria vs Streets
Rejoice vs WOWY
Tomorrow vs OTH
Sunday Bloody Sunday vs Heartland
New Year's Day vs God Part II
Like A Song vs All I Want Is You

Some of those match-ups are just baffling. I think the grouped version is far more logical and there is more basis for comparison between songs in the voting. I mean, SBS vs Heartland?! The Electric Co. vs Bad?!
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But more people get exposed to his music and in the end it is a celebration of his genius and creativity. Two songs show off how inventive he really is.
And how does that achieve it any better than namkcuR's frankly far more logical seeded system does?
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Originally posted by Axver
Here's a wildly simplified example of what I'm getting at here. Basically, what makes more sense:

1980-83:
- I Will Follow
- Twilight
- The Electric Co.
- Gloria
- Rejoice
- Tomorrow
- Sunday Bloody Sunday
- New Year's Day
- Like A Song

1984-89
- A Sort Of Homecoming
- The Unforgettable Fire
- Bad
- Streets
- WOWY
- One Tree Hill
- Heartland
- God Part II
- All I Want Is You

OR

I Will Follow vs ASOH
Twilight vs The Unforgettable Fire
The Electric Co. vs Bad
Gloria vs Streets
Rejoice vs WOWY
Tomorrow vs OTH
Sunday Bloody Sunday vs Heartland
New Year's Day vs God Part II
Like A Song vs All I Want Is You

Some of those match-ups are just baffling. I think the grouped version is far more logical and there is more basis for comparison between songs in the voting. I mean, SBS vs Heartland?! The Electric Co. vs Bad?!
Those would be great matchups. It make everyone appreciate who different U2's best can sound like. It would be a real test of what is closest to everyone's heart. Those are damn fine matchups.
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I don't think Axver ever saw George Mason play.
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And how does that achieve it any better than namkcuR's frankly far more logical seeded system does?
Because when you have odd matchups you can appreciate how different these songs are and locate what it is about Bowie that one truly loves. The seeding will give chances to song that wouldn't normally have a chance. You'll see.
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Those would be great matchups. It make everyone appreciate who different U2's best can sound like. It would be a real test of what is closest to everyone's heart. Those are damn fine matchups.
See, I think the only comparisons that make any sense there are Tomorrow vs OTH and NYD vs God Part II. The others are essentially meaningless "apples vs oranges" rounds that produce nonsense results.

Look at the 1980-83 section. All of those songs can be compared to each other. They fit together. They all belong in that context. Meanwhile, if you look at the match-ups, there isn't even any context. It's just a bunch of pointless song comparisons that somebody could have pulled out of their arse.
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