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Old 11-17-2007, 11:09 PM   #451
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Great game between Hawaii/Nevada last night!! Anyone catch it?
I saw it and I blame Nevada's coach for timeclock mismanagement; if he had the extra 50 seconds he burned, he could've, may have had a chance to get closer for a field goal attempt of his own....
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Those two timeouts might have helped too. Icing the kicker is retarded.
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Their attempt to come back at the end was pathetic. What kind of miserable passes were those?!
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i feel bad for clemson
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So UConn's BCS ticket is in their hands. All they have to do is...win at West Virginia. Yeah, that's all. I'm not optimistic.

With all the upsets and guys getting hurt & having off games...shouldn't Tim Tebow win the Heisman? If they don't go down to FSU Matt Ryan probably has a shot...nice TD pass last night. But I'd go Tebow I think.
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Icing the kicker is retarded.
Sea Bass Janikowski and Mike Shanahan may disagree.
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Whatever happened to Janikowski anyway? I was just thinking about him last night actually...
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Sea Bass Janikowski and Mike Shanahan may disagree.
Adam Vinatieri thinks icing the kicker is retarded.

The sample size of icing-the-kicker attempts is way too tiny to make any reliable statistical claims about its effectiveness -- there is only anecdotal evidence by coaches, who claim that it gets into the kicker's heads, and by kickers, who claim that it gives them extra time to visualize the kick (and possibly time to clean up the field).

Any coach who burns timeouts to ice the kicker when there is time still left on the clock for a possible comeback should be shot.

The NFL version, where the coach for some reason is allowed to tell the referee that he wants the ball to be snapped, then wants the timeout retroactively applied before the snap, is especially outrageous. I really hope that someday some player gets seriously injured on a field goal play that doesn't count -- maybe then the NFL will fix it.
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Adam Vinatieri thinks icing the kicker is retarded.

The sample size of icing-the-kicker attempts is way too tiny to make any reliable statistical claims about its effectiveness -- there is only anecdotal evidence by coaches, who claim that it gets into the kicker's heads, and by kickers, who claim that it gives them extra time to visualize the kick (and possibly time to clean up the field).
Sample size? Don't go all SABR on us now Can the Sons of Stanley Morgan website be far behinid?

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Any coach who burns timeouts to ice the kicker when there is time still left on the clock for a possible comeback should be shot.
Yeah pretty much. With no time left you try it because, what the hell, you can't save them. But take the SD/Indy game last week...if SD had used a timeout to ice Vinatieri with more than a minute left, yeah it would have been utterly mind-numbingly stupid. Did Norv have any left? Surprised he didn't use one...

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The NFL version, where the coach for some reason is allowed to tell the referee that he wants the ball to be snapped, then wants the timeout retroactively applied before the snap, is especially outrageous. I really hope that someday some player gets seriously injured on a field goal play that doesn't count -- maybe then the NFL will fix it.
Agreed. I think you'll see that rule changed this offseason; it's really stupid. It probably would be out already except it's kickers, and everybody hates kickers. Speaking of stupid.

It's kind of like the batter who calls time when the pitcher's in his windup...except in that situation the pitcher could just drill the guy, and then guys would think twice about the late step-out. I've only ever seen one guy do it though (that I can remember) - Pedro, to Gary Sheffield.
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AP Top 25
1. LSU (60)
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3. Missouri (1)
4. West Virginia (1)
5. Ohio State
6. Georgia
7. Arizona State
8. Virginia Tech
9. Oregon
10. Oklahoma
11. USC
12. Florida
13. Texas
14. Hawaii
15. Boston College
16. Virginia
17. Boise State
18. Illinois
19. Tennessee
20. Connecticut
21. Clemson
22. Wisconsin
23. Brigham Young
24. Cincinnati
25. Auburn
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1. LSU (51)
2. Kansas (8)
3. West Virginia (1)
4. Missouri
5. Ohio State
6. Arizona State
7. Georgia
8. Virginia Tech
9. Oklahoma
10. Oregon
11. Texas
12. USC
13. Hawaii
14. Florida
15. Virginia
16. Boston College
17. Boise State
18. Illinois
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Whatever happened to Janikowski anyway? I was just thinking about him last night actually...
Still kicking for the Raiders and giving himself roofies in his spare time.
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Who in the world started the tradition of having uniformed troopers, state police, the highway patrol, marshals, constables, justice of the freakin' peace escorting these coaches off the field??? why are they there????
This is a LONG standing tradition. I think I have seen pictures of Bear Bryant with trooper escort.

I spoke to some Louisiana troopers that escorted the friggin Louisiana Tech coach...(TECH, not State, but TECH), and it was a special honor for them.





As for Hawaii, I have been looking for a televised game all season. Either I am not staying awake late enough, or they just aren't broadcasted here.

I blame the Big Ten Network!
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AP Top 25
1. LSU (60)
2. Kansas (3)
3. Missouri (1)
4. West Virginia (1)
5. Ohio State
6. Georgia
7. Arizona State
8. Virginia Tech
9. Oregon
10. Oklahoma
11. USC
12. Florida
13. Texas
14. Hawaii
15. Boston College
16. Virginia
17. Boise State
18. Illinois
19. Tennessee
20. Connecticut
21. Clemson
22. Wisconsin
23. Brigham Young
24. Cincinnati
25. Auburn
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1. LSU (51)
2. Kansas (8)
3. West Virginia (1)
4. Missouri
5. Ohio State
6. Arizona State
7. Georgia
8. Virginia Tech
9. Oklahoma
10. Oregon
11. Texas
12. USC
13. Hawaii
14. Florida
15. Virginia
16. Boston College
17. Boise State
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1. LSU (100)
2. Kansas (13)
3. West Virginia
3. Missouri
5. Ohio State
6. Arizona State
7. Georgia
8. Virginia Tech
9. Oklahoma
10. Oregon
11. Texas
12. USC
13. Hawaii
14. Florida
15. Boise State
16. Boston College
17. Virginia
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3. Missouri
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6. Arizona State
7. Georgia
8. Virginia Tech
9. Oklahoma
10. Oregon
11. Texas
12. USC
13. Hawaii
14. Florida
15. Boise State
16. Boston College
17. Virginia
18. Illinois
19. Tennessee
20. Wisconsin
21. Connecticut
22. Clemson
23. Brigham Young
24. Cincinnati
25. Auburn
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4. Missouri
5. Ohio State
6. Arizona State
7. Georgia
8. Virginia Tech
9. Oregon
10. Oklahoma
11. USC
12. Florida
13. Texas
14. Boston College
15. Hawaii
16. Virginia
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Hey Rick, if we win on Thursday...we're back in the BCS mix...
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