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Old 05-18-2005, 07:12 AM   #106
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For me personally a great band should be able to progress it's sound over a number albums each album having it's on distinct personality, but reatain what the band is. Looking over u2's career their music always evolved right up to ATYCLB. There was always that element in every album that was very 'u2' but you could put two songs on back to back from polor opposite albums and you would walk away knowing that it was the same band, but the sound was unique and different. The last two records have been more leaning to 'vintage' u2 their own progression seems to have slowed down dramtically, and I wonder if they have another brave record like Pop or Zooropa in them.

Anyway, The problem for me with Coldplay is, you can put two songs on back to back from different albums and they sound as if they're from the one album. The progression of sound just isn't there for me. During the '90's u2 through us all curve ball, with every album that came out during that time you were wondering what will it sound like. With a new Coldplay release it just feels like 'more of the same'.

I'm sure this album willl be huge for them and their tour will be a massive sell out of a tour (but to me massive sales and huge tours does not necessarily mean it's a great record, just one that appeals to the masses). But I'm not convinced by either Speed Of Sound or Talk that leaked earlier in the year that they've actually moved forward enough to warrant being a great band yet. I await to be proved wrong, I don't mind the Coldplay boys, and actually really like AROBTTH, I went off it quick right enough, but it held my attention for a while. Let's see what you got Mr Martin!
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Old 05-18-2005, 08:21 AM   #107
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I've always felt that the first 3 u2 records were somewhat similar musically, and it wasn't until UF that their sound really began progressing.
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this thread has run and run and its the same stuff repeated over and over again. "u2 are the best, no one will be better blah blah"

well one day U2 won't be around anymore and they wont be performing and they won't be making new records and thats the time when bands like Coldplay (i'm not saying Coldplay specifically) will be.
in 20 years time theres gonna be some band, possibly around already, possibly not, with mad fans like us going "no one can ever be better, i dont believe you think that new band is half as good, this is the best band in the world etc etc".
the last thing these guys are gonna be talking about is U2, it's gonna be their own band of their time. Yes U2 will be remembered the way the beatles are now, but it'll be someone else in 20 years time being defended on forums by over-zealous fans who attack anything else that comes near to being good.

Whether you like Coldplay or not is a matter of personal opinion but there is no argument that they are a very popular highly lauded band in general. And for those who put down Chris Martins ambitions of being the best band in the world and better than U2 - wasn't it a young Bono who got laughed at in the early days for claiming he thought U2 were something special and that they were going to be the biggest best band in the world?!

Coldplay aside, I've always been amazed by some U2 fans inability to accept other really good bands - everything is seen as a threat to the U2 mantle "this band is good, people might start to think they're better than U2... ATTACK ATTACK!"

its funny really, U2 fans are very over-protective and defensive about U2's status when they really needn't be: U2 have quite clearly proved themselves worthy of every accolade they get and by saying another band like Coldplay is really great or an amazing band or might one day be one of the best band in the world is no way taking away from U2 and their godliness now.
so chill chickens
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^ Good post
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Coldplay is a bit bland to me.
I love Speed Of Sound, but it's the first ever Coldplay song I loved.
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I think Coldplay never will reach to the heights where U2 reigns...

They would have to change the singer, I can´t hear the Chris Martin´s voice for many time, it will make me feel sick in a little while, by the way, some Coldplay songs are ok, besides the fact that the new single "Speed of sound" it´s a sad and boring "Clocks" version.

The main problem , for me , in Coldplay , lies in the mellow, nostalgic, whiny, and sick singing style of the guy mentioned above.

Bono = Best singer ever, power, spirit, and fire shines in him.

Chris Martin = Sad , boring singer, he remembers me of Thom Yorke, another pathethic case.

So, Coldplay always will be < than U2.

So simple !!.
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Anyway, The problem for me with Coldplay is, you can put two songs on back to back from different albums and they sound as if they're from the one album. The progression of sound just isn't there for me. During the '90's u2 through us all curve ball, with every album that came out during that time you were wondering what will it sound like. With a new Coldplay release it just feels like 'more of the same'.
Wow, so you really think that Parachutes sounds like A Rush Of Blood To The Head?

Interesting - you're hearing something I'm not.

There are musical similarities because it's obviously the same band, but there is DEFINITELY a progression, and a large one at that.

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agreed.
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:53 AM   #116
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he remembers me of Thom Yorke, another pathethic case.
who just happens to write some of the best music on EARTH. Something U2 haven't done for quite some time, unfortunately.
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Wow, so you really think that Parachutes sounds like A Rush Of Blood To The Head?

Interesting - you're hearing something I'm not.

There are musical similarities because it's obviously the same band, but there is DEFINITELY a progression, and a large one at that.

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Agree completely. I even, dare say, that I hear much more of progression between those two albums than "Boy" and "October," or even "Boy" to "War."
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I don;t see how Coldplay can be compared to U2 for a couple of reasons.....

1)
U2 released their first 5 records in +- 7 years
Coldplay has released 2 albums plus the new one in 5 years...give it 3 years for the next one so 4 records in 8 years.

2)
Bono vs Chris Martin (songwriter)

at the age of 26 bono has penned down boy, october, war, uf, the joshua tree....if you look at the classics of those albums: i will follow, unforgettable fire, sbs, new yearsday, pride, bad, streets, with or without, still haven't found it's unbelievable...and those are classics for the non diehards...

Coldplay classics up till this point: yellow, in my place, clocks, trouble...a very mediocre speed of light is not a instant classic like in my place which when I first heared it struck me like a lightningstorm(very impressive first single)

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Emotion, passion

coldplay lacks something: my girlfriend once said...this guy of coldplay.his voice is so thin so not sexy so empty and I got mad because I loved the band...2 years later and I haven't listened to their 2 records for 1,5 year....

U2 has allways had passion don;t need to go into that ..



Just don't start talking about achtung baby etc those records were mad in u2's 30s....coldplay are not in that agecatagory although I doubt they will be able to make such a record...
and leave htdaab alone...the guys are in their mid 40's for christ sake!!!! for that age it absolutely rocks and live they just can not be beaten up to this point...

Conclusion;
at this point: Coldplay B+
at this point: U2 B+
at the age where coldplay are now: U2 A+

have a nice day

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who just happens to write some of the best music on EARTH. Something U2 haven't done for quite some time, unfortunately.
Thom yorke has graced this planet with some of the best tunes written in a very very long time
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I think Coldplay never will reach to the heights where U2 reigns...

They would have to change the singer, I can´t hear the Chris Martin´s voice for many time, it will make me feel sick in a little while, by the way, some Coldplay songs are ok, besides the fact that the new single "Speed of sound" it´s a sad and boring "Clocks" version.

The main problem , for me , in Coldplay , lies in the mellow, nostalgic, whiny, and sick singing style of the guy mentioned above.

Bono = Best singer ever, power, spirit, and fire shines in him.

Chris Martin = Sad , boring singer, he remembers me of Thom Yorke, another pathethic case.

So, Coldplay always will be < than U2.

So simple !!.
I agree completely - except the part about Thom Yorke being a pathetic singer. I like his voice a lot - he's got an amazing falsetto.
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