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Old 05-14-2005, 11:11 AM   #46
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U2girl, in those days the priority was to make the best record they could and because the records were so good U2 became bigger than life, especially in the States. That creativity and succes can go hand in hand was proven with records like Joshua tree and Achtung baby. It's not that I don't want them to be big, I do but foremost I want them to make great music. Achtung baby is lyrically and musically so much better than HTDAAB. I wish it was the other way around but it isn't.
U2's whole career proves it's possible to be good AND popular.

I think many fans enjoy the last two records, that doesn't make them bad does it? While they are mainstream compared to the rest of U2 music, they're still different to what's on MTV or radio - especially what's popular in US.
As for HTDAAB, give it time to fit into their catalogue. To everything there is a season, too.
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150 Million Albums sold, the previous 3 tours have sold 8 million tickets, Elevation grossed 300 million. ATYCLB won 7 grammy's, Vertigo won 2 this year, Vertigo compared to Speed Of Sound(no contest), I mean U2 is huge, huge, I aint saying no one will ever come along but at this stage no way. Coldplay can dream of U2 status all they want. I like Coldplay and Chris has a great voice and very good qualities, Bono's voice has more diversity though. The guitarist in Coldplay is great too( don't know his name hahaha)
But hey U2 are U2 and they have that incredible diversity, I can see Coldplay getting so same same.. I can't really speak til this album is released so it's all heresy but IMO it just can't happen.

U2 have an unyielding desire to do what it takes, they also have a belief which the majority connect with, they are real!!
I think Coldplay are way too soppy sad sad melon colie

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I hate the fact that coldplay openly claims to be the next u2.
They won't ever come close to u2. Even though coldplay is a good
band I hate the fact that they try so hard to be just like u2.
Does anyone feel the same way?
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I don't think Coldplay openly claims to be the next U2. Critics and fans say that shit unless you can back it up with sources. They may desire it but whats wrong with stating your goals?

I find it funny that some U2 fans feel threatened by other bands trying to get the reputation/ acclaim that U2 have. Like geez, take a pill and enjoy the show. If you can't, then just move on and ignore them.

Also... I don't think popularity isn't the end all and be all of judging the greatness of a band. However, to ignore that aspect of "greatness" is ridiculous. Mass acclaim does mean something.
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Coldplay proved with this record that they are mediocre at best. Songs from X&Y don't compete at all to The Bomb. Speed of Sound was already heard before, Talk is mostly dull and other songs from the live recordings sound uninspired and boring.
In my personal opinion, had I heard live versions of material from "the" bomb, then I would probably have put off buying that record and bought something else with my money...you can't form an opinion of a yet-to-be-released record from a bunch of live recordings that i'm guessing sound rather empty compared to the studio versions (in the day of layering tons of tracks in the studio for that 'full' sound). Listen to some of the live stuff from 'How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb' then compare it to the record. As usual The Edge has recorded lots of backing guitar and since Bono doesn't play while singing, the songs just fall flat and you can't deny it. Just listen to 'All Because of You' and 'Vertigo'. Bland.
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just had to put in my two cents...

has anyone heard of 'moses'? it's a coldplay song...i've only heard a live version of it. i think 'speed of sound' kinda sounds like it.

i also think 'speed of sound' sounds very similar to clocks, especially the rhythm.

i'm kinda disappointed in 'speed of sound', it doesn't sound like anything special or unique, and i'm saying this as a coldplay fan.
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'Moses' is one of the best things Coldplay have ever done! I'm kinda disappointed it's not on the album!! The performance from the Live 2003 DVD is awesome!
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I find it funny that some U2 fans feel threatened by other bands trying to get the reputation/ acclaim that U2 have. Like geez, take a pill and enjoy the show. If you can't, then just move on and ignore them.


I find it funny that you think you're so superior to other U2 fans
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I find it funny that some U2 fans feel threatened by other bands trying to get the reputation/ acclaim that U2 have. Like geez, take a pill and enjoy the show. If you can't, then just move on and ignore them.

I agree. I see a lot of U2 fans acting pretty threatened by Coldplay being huge. U2 is my favorite band, but Coldplay is in the position of becoming more relevant to the MTV/VH1 crowd while U2 is on their way out--which I think is primarily due to U2's age. I think with the release of x&y it'll become more and more evident. I'm a teacher and I can't tell you how many times my students simply don't give U2 much of a chance because "they're old!" Sex appeal and youth has always been huge factors in being relevant with younger audiences unfortunately. U2 has had a long long time in the sun, and it's only natural that someone will have to take their place at sometime. That doesn't mean that the band replacing U2 as "the biggest" will be better, but it will be more relevant to a new generation.
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I agree. I see a lot of U2 fans acting pretty threatened by Coldplay being huge. U2 is my favorite band, but Coldplay is in the position of becoming more relevant to the MTV/VH1 crowd while U2 is on their way out--which I think is primarily due to U2's age. I think with the release of x&y it'll become more and more evident. I'm a teacher and I can't tell you how many times my students simply don't give U2 much of a chance because "they're old!" Sex appeal and youth has always been huge factors in being relevant with younger audiences unfortunately. U2 has had a long long time in the sun, and it's only natural that someone will have to take their place at sometime. That doesn't mean that the band replacing U2 as "the biggest" will be better, but it will be more relevant to a new generation.
I have no problem with some young band taking over the world and taking U2's place. It seems only natural that the next generation should have their own U2 - not a copy of U2, but someone who has the same kind of impact. I just don't see how Coldplay can be that band. I know music is subjective, but some things are just so obvious they can't be denied. I've seen a couple of Coldplay's live performances on TV. It doesn't even begin to compare to the energy and excitement of early U2 - or any era of U2, for that matter - even their current era, which I think is their weakest even though I'm still a huge fan. "Mellow" is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Coldplay, while "passionate" is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of U2.
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I have no problem with some young band taking over the world and taking U2's place. It seems only natural that the next generation should have their own U2 - not a copy of U2, but someone who has the same kind of impact. I just don't see how Coldplay can be that band. I know music is subjective, but some things are just so obvious they can't be denied. I've seen a couple of Coldplay's live performances on TV. It doesn't even begin to compare to the energy and excitement of early U2 - or any era of U2, for that matter - even their current era, which I think is their weakest even though I'm still a huge fan. "Mellow" is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Coldplay, while "passionate" is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of U2.
I see your point of view, but I think we should wait till X&Y is released to see if they've gotten any more uptempo or not. If they could make some real rockers, they'd be unstoppable. Word is that most of the album is downtempo though, which disappoints me in a way. In any case it's still very very early to judge them--they have tons of potential and are releasing only their 3rd album. Basically in terms of years they are at the same point U2 was at in 1985, so they still have a lot of time to grow as a band.
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I see your point of view, but I think we should wait till X&Y is released to see if they've gotten any more uptempo or not. If they could make some real rockers, they'd be unstoppable. Word is that most of the album is downtempo though, which disappoints me in a way. In any case it's still very very early to judge them--they have tons of potential and are releasing only their 3rd album. Basically in terms of years they are at the same point U2 was at in 1985, so they still have a lot of time to grow as a band.
I am sorry to say to you but your little spill about Coldplay being as big as U2 up to this point is unfounded. Album sales don't mean as much as they used to!
At this stage, U2 had done Live Aid, released 4 albums and had huge songs such as Pride, New Years Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday and I Will Follow. The had already conquered America and they did Red Rocks.
I also don't think your quote about Bono having no sex appeal because he is old. Maybe not to the teeny boppers, but his songs do. Vertigo was really huge and almost everyone I know thought it was an awesome song full of energy. Besides where is the Sex appeal with Coldplay if that is the case?
Coldplays music is nice and safe. It's not pro-active enough in it's approach and it doesn't have any grunt. They focus way too much on sounding crystal clear rather than the emotion they put into it, which is fine.. but it just doesn't make you feel like getting off your arse and doing something good!
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I am sorry to say to you but your little spill about Coldplay being as big as U2 up to this point is unfounded. Album sales don't mean as much as they used to!
At this stage, U2 had done Live Aid, released 4 albums and had huge songs such as Pride, New Years Day, Sunday Bloody Sunday and I Will Follow. The had already conquered America and they did Red Rocks.
I also don't think your quote about Bono having no sex appeal because he is old. Maybe not to the teeny boppers, but his songs do. Vertigo was really huge and almost everyone I know thought it was an awesome song full of energy. Besides where is the Sex appeal with Coldplay if that is the case?
Coldplays music is nice and safe. It's not pro-active enough in it's approach and it doesn't have any grunt. They focus way too much on sounding crystal clear rather than the emotion they put into it, which is fine.. but it just doesn't make you feel like getting off your arse and doing something good!
Reread my posts-- I don't think you were really able to grasp the points I was making. This is the type of defensiveness we were talking about, because you read what you wanted to and missed my points. U2 is my favorite band by far with Coldplay at a distant second, so I'm not saying this like Coldplay is my favorite band, just as someone who's not defensive about U2 inevitably having to pass the torch someday.

1. Never said Coldplay was bigger than U2.

2. At their respective points in their first 5 years of thier careers, U2 had 4 big hits with I Will Follow, Pride, Sunday Bloody Sunday and New Years Day. (although I would argue that IWF wasn't a huge hit at the time, maybe only in the UK)
Coldplay has had 6 with Yellow, Trouble, Clocks, The Scientist, In My Place and Speed of Sound, all of which have been huge hits. That's even before the release of their 3rd album.

3. I'd say that Coldplay has pretty much conquered America, considering "Speed of Sound" made its debut at #8 on the U.S. charts--the first British band to accomplish this feat since The Beatles released "Hey Jude" in 1968.

4. Again, read what I wrote. Sex appeal has a lot to do with youth--U2 aren't exactly spring chickens anymore. They simply don't appeal to the under 20 crowd like they used to. Coldplay does.

5. Your last point is totally subjective. Songs like Politik, Yellow and Clocks pack a ton of emotion IMO. Why does music have to be proactive to be good? One, The Fly, Gone, With Or Without You, Vertigo, Sometimes, Until The End of the World, Stay...ect are among U2's best songs, yet they don't really inspire me to get off my ass and "do something good."
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'Moses' is one of the best things Coldplay have ever done! I'm kinda disappointed it's not on the album!! The performance from the Live 2003 DVD is awesome!
i really like 'moses' too...but i wish speed of sound didn't sound so derived...
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