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Old 06-24-2008, 09:15 PM   #946
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Yep, that's a good measure of quality alright.
It appears most of the general public disagrees with you.

I'd guess that Lost! will be the next single.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:17 PM   #947
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It appears most of the general public disagrees with you.
Come ON, Phanan. You know so much better than to make that argument. I'm not arguing with some dumbass on myspace here.

Don't be biased. Ask yourself: would I defend Hinder in this manner? Because you can transpose this argument to any shit artist who had a hit. "Brilliant single" does not mean "song that reached #1".
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:19 PM   #948
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I may be wrong but I think it goes beyond music when you call someone a blank or a zero.
You are wrong. He's commenting on his musical talent, not his personal life.
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Well you said it yourself. The Joshua Tree changed all that, and while it was their 5th studio album, they also put all of those out within a 7 year span. Coldplay may only be on their fourth album, but they've had the same 7 years to develop their OWN style, their own masterpiece. If you believe Martin's bullshit, that VLV is their Unforgettable Fire, and that some Eternal Classic is on the horizon, more power to you.

But I think it's foolish to expect. Martin just doesn't have the same kind of wandering spirit that Bono does. Bono was married with kids, too, but him and Ali were getting hardcore, humbling experiences in Central America and Africa around the same time in his career. He had still not reconciled his issues with his parents (and arguably still hasn't). Martin putting colored band-aids on his finger, writing "fair trade" on his hand and marrying a posh American movie star ain't the same thing. There also isn't a briliant dynamo in his band like The Edge (or Jonny Greenwood). So where exactly is this future masterpiece supposed to come from?
Ha, I certainly don't buy into Chris Martin's bullshit. But all the same, I'm not going to let his naffish demeanour cloud my judgement when I listen to his band's work. I agree that the chances of them releasing anything that's on par with JT/AB are small. If they do end up achieving that goal, though, good for them. Anything is possible, no matter how impossible it may seem at the time.

I truly do believe that they've progressed with this album. Mind you, anything would be an improvement after the shitfest that was X&Y.
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Come ON, Phanan. You know so much better than to make that argument. I'm not arguing with some dumbass on myspace here.

Don't be biased. Ask yourself: would I defend Hinder in this manner? Because you can transpose this argument to any shit artist who had a hit. "Brilliant single" does not mean "song that reached #1".
I'm not talking about the charts, although an English rock band reaching #1 on Billboard is a rarity these days.

I'm talking about most of the reviews I've seen for the song. It appears that a lot of people genuinely like it. Your fellow musketeer LMP seems to agree.
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This is true, the title track's friggin' catchy.
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I'm talking about most of the reviews I've seen for the song. It appears that a lot of people genuinely like it. Your fellow musketeer LMP seems to agree.
Ohhhhhhh...OK. Chart performance and sales can be manipulated, but it's hard to argue with an honest review, even if it's just by some uninformed nobody.

Basically, the "brilliant" in "brilliant single" is, for me, defined by 1. its overall quality and, at a distant #2. its ability to catch on with the populous and remain there. There's something really insular and slightly arrogant about the song that makes me think it won't become a great song to get drunk and wave lighters to and, moreover, I just really don't think it's all that great of a song. Meh.
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Yeah, how would "Viva la Vida Loca" even sound live? Would it just be strings piped in over the PA, Chrissy posturing and singing onstage while the rest of the band takes a pee break?
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I agree that Lost! will, and probably should, be the next single.
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With any other band, I'd agree. The thing with Coldplay is -- and I am a fan, mind you -- they are SO obviously HUGE U2 fans that it affects almost everything they do. I think it's part of their charm. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Coldplay is like a little puppy that tags at U2's heels, and makes great songs as a result.
Kinda like Rob then, only without the "great songs" bit.
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The title track seems to be doing quite well.

......and your point?
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The problem with Viva la Vida as a single is it simply isn't big enough...it's too empty, that dude up there banging that drum and that bell isn't going to cut it....the only thing it has going for it is its catchiness...but they can't rely solely on that. When everything settles down, it will begin to fall into place.

I think if Coldplay was going to rival JT/AB then we would see some progress. Despite what GG sees in Viva la Vida, it's not enough...sure it's better than past albums, but compare U2's albums leading up to JT. You could feel it coming...I'm not feeling it with Coldplay
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Rob33, a dead horse cannot be made any deader by repeated beatings. It's already dead.
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Rob33, a dead horse cannot be made any deader by repeated beatings. It's already dead.
Watch him prove you wrong.
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