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Old 05-04-2002, 11:37 AM   #16
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Clinton is no longer president. If he were going to do a talk show while president, then, yes, I'd agree with you. But he's Citizen Clinton now. He can do what he pleases. You also assume he's going to do a trashy, Jerry Springer-ish talk show, when I have a feeling he would do something along the lines of Oprah / Rosie O'Donnell.

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Clinton is no longer president. If he were going to do a talk show while president, then, yes, I'd agree with you. But he's Citizen Clinton now. He can do what he pleases. You also assume he's going to do a trashy, Jerry Springer-ish talk show, when I have a feeling he would do something along the lines of Oprah / Rosie O'Donnell.

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Like hell, he may not be the current president but he will always be President Clinton.

Until his death, he will receive his annual salary and have a secret service detail assigned to his protection. Once a person assumes the oath of office, they are to conduct themself properly and uphold honor indefinitely.

To do otherwise would be a direct insult to the institution that elected them.

I heard something about an Oprah-esque type format, so I never asumed he would do the Springer thing really. Still, it is not proper for a President to conduct themself this way.

I believe this to be a clever ploy from the entertainment industry (and left) to use Clinton as the perfect pitch man to erode the renewed respect for office from the majority of the country. Since they can't seem to attack Bush upfront with any success.

With Clinton in the spotlight again as a President hosting daytime talk, our subconscious expectations associated with the position of Presidents in general will be lowered. And of course Bush will be trying to run his campaign during this time too.

This will supposedly put Bush off guard while the DICK Gephardts and Tom DASSchole's of the world prepare their agenda while the Gore's and McCain's (he'll be a Legitimate Dem by then for sure) put on their game faces.
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Old 05-04-2002, 12:14 PM   #18
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Then I guess we have differing ideas on respect. Listening to Bush speak, for instance, is like driving nails into my ears...his grammar is terrible. I find that to be terribly disrespectful to the office. But, it should be inspirational to us all...it shows that any spoiled rich moron can become president if you ride on daddy's coattails and amass record campaign contributions from the world's wealthiest individuals and multinational corporations.......

I still get great amusement from the story I heard from my brother's friend, who lived and worked in Kennebunkport, Maine. At the time (which was probably 3-4 years ago), she was a waitress and the Bush family came in. Bush, Sr. treated Bush, Jr. like an incompetant child the entire time, telling him to settle down and correcting his speech and manners the entire time. Oh how I'd pay for a video of that!

With the exception of the Monica scandal and his Republican economic policies, Clinton was always an interesting president. I guess I'm tired of the same old pampered rich kids (yes, that does include Gore) running for office and running our nation. Clinton did offer something new in regards to that, and, yet again, he still has a few surprises up his sleeve. And what does Bush offer? The same things as twenty years ago. You can only push the same old supply-side ideas so far.

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Then I guess we have differing ideas on respect. Listening to Bush speak, for instance, is like driving nails into my ears...
LOL that is funny, sorry

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his grammar is terrible I find that to be terribly disrespectful to the office.
So if he were handicapped and in a wheelchair would that be disrespectful to the office then? See, because while his grammar is "terrible" and his speech is all fucked up, he is dislyxec (<--mine too, sp?) and reads words backwards, pronounces them wrong as a result and often "appears" idiotic but is genuinely smart as even you should realize if you observe him enough (w/wo the nails in yer ears)

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But, it should be inspirational to us all...it shows that any spoiled rich moron can become president if you ride on daddy's coattails and amass record campaign contributions from the world's wealthiest individuals and multinational corporations.......
Well he did not ride on daddy's coattails, he made his own way 8 years later, after daddy's last stand ended in failure if you remember.

He was independently wealthy too, not bad for a moron to govern a state the size of many nations and become involved in other powerful industries (oil) and manage sports organizations as well.

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I still get great amusement from the story I heard from my brother's friend, who lived and worked in Kennebunkport, Maine. At the time (which was probably 3-4 years ago), she was a waitress and the Bush family came in. Bush, Sr. treated Bush, Jr. like an incompetant child the entire time, telling him to settle down and correcting his speech and manners the entire time. Oh how I'd pay for a video of that!
I doubt that story to be true, as you tell it probably exaggerated, if not total rubbish

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With the exception of the Monica scandal and his Republican economic policies, Clinton was always an interesting president.
True, he was interesting, to say the least!

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I guess I'm tired of the same old pampered rich kids (yes, that does include Gore) running for office and running our nation. Clinton did offer something new in regards to that, and, yet again, he still has a few surprises up his sleeve. And what does Bush offer? The same things as twenty years ago. You can only push the same old supply-side ideas so far.

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You know every time we have this conversation, I remind you of your statement last summer about you hating Bush no matter what he accomplishes, no matter what.

At least get this right, though. He is not a rehash of the last 20 years (minus Bubba) of Presidency. He is not his father, and he has more patience and determination than his father, apparently. Probably has something to do with having a handicap, having to work harder in other areas to compensate for your insecurities and weaknesses given to you by God.
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