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Old 02-15-2002, 01:11 PM   #1
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Canada awarded the gold for pairs skating!

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Old 02-15-2002, 01:15 PM   #2
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...apparently they are SHARING the gold w/ the Russian skaters.
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Beat me to it. It's all over the news. Very interesting. But what kind of precedent does this set for the role of human error in judging? I'm not sure how I feel about the issue, but I'm happy for the Canadians.

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Great! They definitely both deserve a gold medal.
But what about the other pair? (Can't remember the name) Are they still getting bronze?

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February 14 ó NBCís Kelly OíDonnell reports from Salt Lake about the latest on the Pelletier and Sale controversy.
THE FRENCH JUDGE in the middle of the dispute was suspended.
The highly unusual decision by top Olympic and skating officials also allows the Russian pair to keep their gold medal, which was narrowly won during Monday nightís free skate program.
The gold medal was awarded to Canadians Jamie Sale and David Pelletier at the suggestion of the International Skating Union.
The ISU and the International Olympic Committee announced the decision at a joint news conference attended by IOC president Jacques Rogge and ISU head Ottavio Cinquanta.
The move came just hours before the case was to be heard by an international arbitration panel for sport.
The controversy began when Sale and Pelletier were beaten by Elena Berezhnaya and Anton Sikharulidze of Russia after a 5-4 vote that surprised many observers. The Canadians skated a flawless program while the Russians made a couple of technical errors.
The decision allowed the Russians to extend their streak of winning gold in the pairs in every Olympics since 1964.
Since Monday, there have been reports that French judge Marie-Reine Le Gougne was pressured to cast her vote for the Russians. The ISU had planned to review the scoring at a meeting next week, but the deal Friday allowed the matter to be settled in the swift manner the IOC urged.
French figure skating judge Marie Reine Le Gougne allegedly was pressured into influencing her pairs voting Monday night.
Canadian officials said they didnít want the Russians stripped of the gold medal, but they believed Sale and Pelletier also should be rewarded if evidence of wrongdoing was uncovered.
Franceís top Olympic official said Thursday that the French judge at the heart of the imbroglio voted honestly despite pressure from coaches.
The awarding of a second gold medal is not unprecedented, though the circumstances were significantly different.
In 1993, the IOC awarded a second gold medal in synchronized swimming from the Barcelona Games to Canadaís Sylvie Frechette. The IOCís executive board agreed that Frechette was placed second because of a judging error and should be awarded a gold.
The decision came after the Canadian swimming federation protested because a Brazilian judge was not allowed to correct the 8.7 score she mistyped into her computer. The intended 9.7 would have given Frechette the gold. The IOCís decision did not affect Kristen Babb-Sprague of the United States, who was originally awarded the gold and kept her medal.

From www.olympics.com

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Old 02-15-2002, 01:31 PM   #6
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Holy cow

I didn't really think that would happen!!!
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Awesome news. Really the fair thing to do and I'm glad that the ISU pulled it's head out of it's umm...hind places and saw the sense in it.
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I understand the diplomatic function of the decision but it is still wrong. The Russian's donít *deserve* Gold, itís almost as if the institutions involved donít want to bother with further embarrassment by awarding the Russians what is rightfully theirs-the Silver. If that Russian pair have any class they should come straight out right now and ask for a silver so that the history books tell the truth.

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I really am happy for them, however, this does set a precedent. How do we know that every sore loser ( not that I'm saying the Canadians were sore losers, anything but.) from now on won't say that the judging was unfair and get themselves a medal? Just to throw a wrench in the works....
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Fair play.
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Old 02-15-2002, 02:19 PM   #11
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Originally posted by Peaseblossom:
I really am happy for them, however, this does set a precedent. How do we know that every sore loser ( not that I'm saying the Canadians were sore losers, anything but.) from now on won't say that the judging was unfair and get themselves a medal? Just to throw a wrench in the works....
How much figure skating have you actually watched? It's not unusual to have the judges voting along east-west bloc lines or to be trading votes. But normally it's not quite as clear-cut and harder to make a case that a skater was actually cheated. This time around, it was quite obvious and the fact of the matter is, I'm glad of the reprisal. Because figure skating needs to clean up its judging BIGTIME. If no one ever said anything, nothing would be done. It's not a matter of "whining" over not winning. It's a matter of fairness and of not having rigged judges and a level playing field. I highly doubt you will see a sudden rash of requests for changes in results...but hopefully more guidelines in the judging procedures to prevent these kinds of things from happening so often.

Oh and also...it's not a matter of randomly placing them first and giving them a medal just because they complained. The French judge was suspended for impropriety and her vote nullified, causing a tie between the pairs, so it only makes sense that they would be awarded a gold in this case.

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Old 02-15-2002, 02:34 PM   #12
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It was a rich big pressure from Canada , this is olympics and there is only one winner , canadians are behaving like amateurs or loosers . 'real' Fucking heroes of these Olympics whos program was two years old !!!
This is not justice , this is sport corruption .
This whole situation sucks !!!!!!!!!!!
Russian pair are the real champions .
A big black cloud on all SLC olympics 2002 events .
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Originally posted by IvanClaytonJnr:
It was a rich big pressure from Canada , this is olympics and there is only one winner , canadians are behaving like amateurs or loosers . 'real' Fucking heroes of these Olympics whos program was two years old !!!
This is not justice , this is sport corruption .
This whole situation sucks !!!!!!!!!!!
Russian pair are the real champions .
A big black cloud on all SLC olympics 2002 events .
excuse me but rich big pressure from Canada. And here I thought it was the US media and others who cried foul - interesting interpretation of the news :P
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Ivan, if you really feel that way, why don't you post your analysis of the two programmes and tell us why the Russians were better?
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Ivan, if you really feel that way, why don't you post your analysis of the two programmes and tell us why the Russians were better?
OK , and you tell me why canadians were better , common ??!!!!
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