Screwtape2
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I don't believe in a God but I do know there is something after death. Something wonderful.
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I don't believe in a God but I do know there is something after death. Something wonderful.
Varitek
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Sorry to press this, but again, because you say like me you're an atheist, and I don't think atheists think there is anything after death.... so what did you see? I am really curious.
And did you have a near-death experience or something? How did this happen.
Sorry if I'm pushing you, obviously you don't have to answer anything, but I am trying to understand where you are coming from.
Varitek
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Hey Screwtape, when did this happen and when did you start feeling this way? How long have you been dealing with this?
Screwtape2
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That's okay. I almost drowned in a pool. I could feel death wrapping itself around me but I wasn't alone. You can imagine how lonely death feels like. That's actually one of the reasons why I want people to know they are loved like the librarian because no one should feel that lonely. Well, then I was ripped away from death. A few hours later when I went near the pool I looked up at the sky and there it was. There wasn't God there was us.
Screwtape2
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I was three at the time. I've dealt with all of this since then.
Yeah, I'll join the baffled atheists club here. There's nothing after death. It's very simple really. You die and that's that. I've enjoyed life a lot more ever since I came to that realisation.
Varitek
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Screwtape do you think you have something related to PTSD? I have had PTSD and it really helps to see a psychiatrist and open up to them and let them help you.
Varitek
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What, and how can it exist without god? How does this relate to the intense loneliness you felt near death/
LemonMelon
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I am incredibly intrigued by this conversation. But I must say, I don't remember a damn thing from when I was three, save a minute here or there that really wasn't of much significance.
Screwtape2
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That is your belief and I respect that. I think you underestimate the universe. Things like love and dreams last forever.
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yeah, ptsd sucks. i had it as well a few years ago. i still have it a little, but it's not nearly as bad as it used to be. i never sought therapy for it but i did open up to friends and family and tell them how i was feeling. i couldn't have gone on living the way i was living, with all that stress and such.
redhotswami
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As someone who is still experiencing PTSD and is getting regular counseling myself, I have to agree with this.
OP
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i'm catholic and i'm not even sure if i think love and dreams last forever
Screwtape2
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Like I said I don't think a psychiatrist would help. I have to live with these things. I accepted that a long time ago.
Varitek
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Screwtape, I have absolutely no psychological training, but from some things you've said, it sounds like you have some sort of mood depression that prevents you from enjoying life/relating to people, maybe related to this great thing after death that you refer to. Do you get pleasure from everyday things like good food or social interaction? You seem to certainly get pleasure from music. Anyway, I think it's really treatable if you see a psychiatrist, both through therapy and medication.
LemonMelon
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As you all well know by now, I believe there is an afterlife but, like Vazza, I'm skeptical of it existing without some sort of supernatural being there to govern it. I also believe that an afterlife would serve a greater purpose; not just to float around for the hell of it.
Dreams are fleeting. Love is an all-too-subjective emotion.
OP
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no you don't. no one deserves such a burden and stress to have all their lives. i can understand not wanting to talk to a professional, but i suggest you at least speak with your family about your feelings. many times. or if not them, just someone you know you can trust.
redhotswami
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But psychiatrists are trained to make that decision, you are not. I don't think you should rule it out.
Varitek
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But this isn't true! I know it's really hard to admit you need help, it took me two years to actually see someone (well I saw a different guy once and it was awful, partly i think the psychiatrist was no good and partly i just didn't want to have to need it). But if you give it a try I think things can be better and you can be happy and fulfilled in this life and not feel so isolated. I think honestly you've got a dopamine problem which can be treated with medication as well as with counseling. How can it hurt to try it out?
LemonMelon
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This is true, but let's face it, if he can't relate his feelings to them in a way that they can analyze, it rather defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
coolian2
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Not remotely. It boils down to that i believe there is no point wasting - for want of a better term - the present on the premise of the afterlife, which, touch wood, is some time off.
Screwtape2
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There wasn't a God there was simply us. I can't explain it. That was just what I saw and felt.
redhotswami
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I have to disagree here. After being faced with the difficult truth of life's fragility, I feel like people and situations are fleeting. Everything is temporary. But I think love is a renewable energy source, so to speak. People die, but I think their love for us will last forever. We'll take with us memories, images, etc. and feel that love again (eventually.)
Dreams are the only thing that can remain constant for me. When my world came crashing around me, and I didn't have dreams, or a goal or sense of purpose, I just felt like I was falling in a neverending well. But my dream is really all I can cling to right now, and lately it is what gets me through the day.
coolian2
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Back in about 15-20 minutes. Home made pizza time.
Varitek
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I think they are trained to deal with people who have trouble relating their feelings
Yeah, I'd say most people who go to psychiatrists are probably people incapable or unwilling to express and relate their feelings, and the psychiatrist's job is to use techniques to overcome this.
Screwtape2
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No Khan. Some things you have to deal with. I don't want them to tell me none of it is real when they don't know. It would be a useles waste of money.
Varitek
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Maybe you should tell one of them this and find one who is willing to work within this limit to see you.
Screwtape2
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They are going to tell me I'm lying and that I need medication when I have accepted this. I don't want to be locked up or overmedicated.
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