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Old 05-24-2008, 02:26 AM   #556
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That is your belief and I respect that. I think you underestimate the universe. Things like love and dreams last forever.
As you all well know by now, I believe there is an afterlife but, like Vazza, I'm skeptical of it existing without some sort of supernatural being there to govern it. I also believe that an afterlife would serve a greater purpose; not just to float around for the hell of it.
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That is your belief and I respect that. I think you underestimate the universe. Things like love and dreams last forever.
Dreams are fleeting. Love is an all-too-subjective emotion.
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Like I said I don't think a psychiatrist would help. I have to live with these things. I accepted that a long time ago.
no you don't. no one deserves such a burden and stress to have all their lives. i can understand not wanting to talk to a professional, but i suggest you at least speak with your family about your feelings. many times. or if not them, just someone you know you can trust.
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Like I said I don't think a psychiatrist would help. I have to live with these things. I accepted that a long time ago.
But psychiatrists are trained to make that decision, you are not. I don't think you should rule it out.
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Like I said I don't think a psychiatrist would help. I have to live with these things. I accepted that a long time ago.
But this isn't true! I know it's really hard to admit you need help, it took me two years to actually see someone (well I saw a different guy once and it was awful, partly i think the psychiatrist was no good and partly i just didn't want to have to need it). But if you give it a try I think things can be better and you can be happy and fulfilled in this life and not feel so isolated. I think honestly you've got a dopamine problem which can be treated with medication as well as with counseling. How can it hurt to try it out?
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But psychiatrists are trained to make that decision, you are not. I don't think you should rule it out.
This is true, but let's face it, if he can't relate his feelings to them in a way that they can analyze, it rather defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
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Like I said I don't think a psychiatrist would help. I have to live with these things. I accepted that a long time ago.
Not remotely. It boils down to that i believe there is no point wasting - for want of a better term - the present on the premise of the afterlife, which, touch wood, is some time off.
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What, and how can it exist without god? How does this relate to the intense loneliness you felt near death/
There wasn't a God there was simply us. I can't explain it. That was just what I saw and felt.
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Dreams are fleeting. Love is an all-too-subjective emotion.
I have to disagree here. After being faced with the difficult truth of life's fragility, I feel like people and situations are fleeting. Everything is temporary. But I think love is a renewable energy source, so to speak. People die, but I think their love for us will last forever. We'll take with us memories, images, etc. and feel that love again (eventually.)

Dreams are the only thing that can remain constant for me. When my world came crashing around me, and I didn't have dreams, or a goal or sense of purpose, I just felt like I was falling in a neverending well. But my dream is really all I can cling to right now, and lately it is what gets me through the day.
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This is true, but let's face it, if he can't relate his feelings to them in a way that they can analyze, it rather defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
I think they are trained to deal with people who have trouble relating their feelings
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I think they are trained to deal with people who have trouble relating their feelings
Yeah, I'd say most people who go to psychiatrists are probably people incapable or unwilling to express and relate their feelings, and the psychiatrist's job is to use techniques to overcome this.
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no you don't. no one deserves such a burden and stress to have all their lives. i can understand not wanting to talk to a professional, but i suggest you at least speak with your family about your feelings. many times. or if not them, just someone you know you can trust.
No Khan. Some things you have to deal with. I don't want them to tell me none of it is real when they don't know. It would be a useles waste of money.
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No Khan. Some things you have to deal with. I don't want them to tell me none of it is real when they don't know. It would be a useles waste of money.
Maybe you should tell one of them this and find one who is willing to work within this limit to see you.
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Maybe you should tell one of them this and find one who is willing to work within this limit to see you.
They are going to tell me I'm lying and that I need medication when I have accepted this. I don't want to be locked up or overmedicated.
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