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Old 05-24-2008, 02:09 AM   #541
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Screwtape, thank you for sharing this, and I am trying to understand this/you.

I just don't get what you are alluding to with "something no one should until death" given that you are an atheist, like me.
I don't believe in a God but I do know there is something after death. Something wonderful.
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What's after death.
Sorry to press this, but again, because you say like me you're an atheist, and I don't think atheists think there is anything after death.... so what did you see? I am really curious.

And did you have a near-death experience or something? How did this happen.

Sorry if I'm pushing you, obviously you don't have to answer anything, but I am trying to understand where you are coming from.
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Hey Screwtape, when did this happen and when did you start feeling this way? How long have you been dealing with this?
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Sorry to press this, but again, because you say like me you're an atheist, and I don't think atheists think there is anything after death.... so what did you see? I am really curious.

And did you have a near-death experience or something? How did this happen.

Sorry if I'm pushing you, obviously you don't have to answer anything, but I am trying to understand where you are coming from.
That's okay. I almost drowned in a pool. I could feel death wrapping itself around me but I wasn't alone. You can imagine how lonely death feels like. That's actually one of the reasons why I want people to know they are loved like the librarian because no one should feel that lonely. Well, then I was ripped away from death. A few hours later when I went near the pool I looked up at the sky and there it was. There wasn't God there was us.
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Hey Screwtape, when did this happen and when did you start feeling this way? How long have you been dealing with this?
I was three at the time. I've dealt with all of this since then.
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Sorry to press this, but again, because you say like me you're an atheist, and I don't think atheists think there is anything after death.... so what did you see? I am really curious.

And did you have a near-death experience or something? How did this happen.

Sorry if I'm pushing you, obviously you don't have to answer anything, but I am trying to understand where you are coming from.
Yeah, I'll join the baffled atheists club here. There's nothing after death. It's very simple really. You die and that's that. I've enjoyed life a lot more ever since I came to that realisation.
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Screwtape do you think you have something related to PTSD? I have had PTSD and it really helps to see a psychiatrist and open up to them and let them help you.
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I don't believe in a God but I do know there is something after death. Something wonderful.
What, and how can it exist without god? How does this relate to the intense loneliness you felt near death/
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I am incredibly intrigued by this conversation. But I must say, I don't remember a damn thing from when I was three, save a minute here or there that really wasn't of much significance.
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Yeah, I'll join the baffled atheists club here. There's nothing after death. It's very simple really. You die and that's that. I've enjoyed life a lot more ever since I came to that realisation.
That is your belief and I respect that. I think you underestimate the universe. Things like love and dreams last forever.
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yeah, ptsd sucks. i had it as well a few years ago. i still have it a little, but it's not nearly as bad as it used to be. i never sought therapy for it but i did open up to friends and family and tell them how i was feeling. i couldn't have gone on living the way i was living, with all that stress and such.
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Screwtape do you think you have something related to PTSD? I have had PTSD and it really helps to see a psychiatrist and open up to them and let them help you.
As someone who is still experiencing PTSD and is getting regular counseling myself, I have to agree with this.
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That is your belief and I respect that. I think you underestimate the universe. Things like love and dreams last forever.
i'm catholic and i'm not even sure if i think love and dreams last forever
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Screwtape do you think you have something related to PTSD? I have had PTSD and it really helps to see a psychiatrist and open up to them and let them help you.
Like I said I don't think a psychiatrist would help. I have to live with these things. I accepted that a long time ago.
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Screwtape, I have absolutely no psychological training, but from some things you've said, it sounds like you have some sort of mood depression that prevents you from enjoying life/relating to people, maybe related to this great thing after death that you refer to. Do you get pleasure from everyday things like good food or social interaction? You seem to certainly get pleasure from music. Anyway, I think it's really treatable if you see a psychiatrist, both through therapy and medication.
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