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Old 05-20-2007, 06:17 PM   #346
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I think i might be a "improper" fan. I am still learning much of Utd.'s history. I would probably be seen as a bandwagon fan as well since I didn't really like football until the world cup. I latched on to Man U. b/c my best friend has been a fan for many many years.

But I don't think this makes me less of a football fan. I am in love with the game. I play and watch it more than my once favorite sport basketball.

Funny thing about this all is I support Utd., and the Chicago Bulls. Though, I went to Bulls games when they were absolutely awful too. Just thought it ironic that I am that fan you speak of, but I am truely a supporter and fan of both teams.
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Sorry for the double post. I just caught the game this afternoon. The first half ought not be mentioned for the poor play. Remember that beautiful run by Ronaldo in the first half? Yup, and Rooney took it offsides...doh!

As for the second half, talk about chances. Giggs Giggs Giggs! He had the best chances and OH!! his corners were pathetic! Poor passing by both teams. Then, 1st extended time, great cross by Rooney and GIGGS! wtf happened... That was Man Utd.'s chace and it was muffed off some part of Giggs' leg...not pretty.

The best play of the game, a great flip to Drogba. My question, watch that play again and ask why did Van Der Sar hesitate? I don't mean to point fingers or take away from the play, but if you see it again, watch Van Der Sar. He goes, stops and then GOES! too late.

Finally, Fletcher sure did try hard to give you Chelea fans prime opportunities too.

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To be fair most of the people who get labelled as "gloryhunters" who i have met in my lifetime have actually been very knowledgable about football and are probably as much as a fan as i am (it's only this last year or so that i've been really passionate about going to matches). My best mate at uni is a man united fan from bridlington in east yorkshire, the other side of the country from manchester and he watches, plays and knows loads about the beautiful game. we've had many a long conversation about footy. Every now and then i'll wind him up about being a glory supporter but it's in jest and i know he is very passionate about the game.

However as someone who grew up in the 90's it was quite odd at school because there were more man united fans in my class than there were birmingham city fans (most were villa). Now i hate birmingham city but looking back it is quite sad that barely anyone in my class chose to support them simply because united were the better team. Some of the kids did eventually change allegiances a couple of years later and decided to support birmingham or villa (at that age kids get easily influenced by their mates i think). But that was my experience anyway growing up.

i'll freely admit i do get annoyed when united, chelsea or liverpool fans who live miles away from their team of choice come up to me and tell me how good their team is and how many trophies they've won this year. But as jimmmm said in an earlier post, it is the nature of the beast and the best teams in the country will get the most exposure on tv and people at a young age will latch onto it wherever they come from. anyway it's late and i'm kinda rambling so i'll stop now.
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Jesus, do you specialise in talking total bollocks, all that crap about " proper" fans, tell me then, 2 years ago United played Exeter in the cup, 10,000 Exeter "fans" travelled to OT, when they normally have less than 3,000 for a league match, but because they're a small club are they all "proper" fans, absolute BOLLOCKS, in that tiny little world you inhabit, unless someone lives within a 5-10 mile radius of a stadium they can't be real "fans" absolute total CRAP!
Also the Cup final in 2004 Utd v. Millwall, Utd were allocated 5,000 or so more tickets than millwall, who in turn complained to anyone who'd listen, but they'd still been allocated 10,000 more tickets than their average attendance, so where had all these "proper" fans come from, people who'd never been to see, or never again would go to see millwall, all of a sudden they're "proper" fans, coz they "support" a little club, absolute & total F***ING BOLLOCKS! 1 point I'll agree on is, yes a lot of people say they support Utd, & don't know a lot, if anything about the clubs history, but every major club in the world has that kind of "fan" & they BORE me almost as much as this old chestnut, " gloryhunters," but stop being catergorical about "most" UNITED fans, just because someone lives half way around the world, & can't get to OT, doesn't mean they can't be passionate about the club, & if you need to ask why, or how they can be so passionate about that, or any other club, then IMO its YOU who know so little about football, & how it can illogically grab hold of, & take over, otherwise rational, & intelligent human beings.
I'm citing Man Utd as an example. Ac Milan, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool are all in a similar position.

There are non-football fans who "support" a team in the EPL. More often than not, that team is Man Utd. That is a fact. Some do not watch football, let alone properly enjoy football as a sport.

What I'm stating, and this is a legitimate observation, is that you are inevitably going to have a greater % of the more passionate and "proper" Man Utd fans living closer to club's base. That's not to say that a Man Utd fan living in Mongolia is going to be devoid of total passion for or commitment to the club, but merely to state that both the passion and commitment of a fan to Man Utd FC is going to ring more true for fans who have a stronger geographical or ancestral tie with the club.

Take many of the Man Utd fans based in East Asia (Japan, China). Many were captivated almost purely because Beckham played for 'em. Beckham moved on to Real Madrid, and the passion and commitment to Man Utd would have been very much reduced in this part of the world. They jumped on the Real Madrid bandwagon.

More so then perhaps any other football club, you are likely to have the most "casual and unknowledgable" football fans wearing a Man Utd/Real Madrid football jersey. It's like all the kids who wore Chicago Bulls caps in the 90's yet knowing bugger all about basketball.

And regarding the Exeter example, there would indeed have been bandwagoning there, but purely on a local scale and not on an international one.

How many folk outside of England do you see wearing an Exeter or Yeovil jersey?

Bandwagoning can be measured in many ways, and if you fo to Australia, you'll find many Man Utd "fans" who wouldn't even classify themselves as "football fans."
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You really are a bitter & twisted being, not a citeh fan by any chance?
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& where exactly are the top 4 spanish teams in the champs/lge?, whilst 3 of the top 4 English clubs made it to the semi's, & more English clubs have reigned as Champs of Europe than any other nation, & more clubs from England have won European trophies than any other nation, the English league title has been won by far more clubs than any other major league, except Germany, tied equally with 23 different champions, no English club has ever dominated its domestic league, in the way Real, & Barca have in spain, Juve has in Italy, & Bayern has in Germany, God, learn about the HISTORY of the game in general before making ridiculous comments about something you obviously know very little about, football goes back beyond the year 2000, did you know that?
Woah relax dude, way too much crap talking there, you're the only one being ridiculous...i'm saying the Spanish league is currently the best, not 'best league ever'...I think it is better and has been better in the past few years than the English league.

The Spanish teams had a crap season as far as the Champions League, but throughout the league I think the Spanish teams, once again I emphasise currently, team for team are better than the English, except for the top 4, though I think any of the top 4 Spanish teams are better in 'pure' footballing terms than either Chelsea or Liverpool.

I didn't need your history lesson thanks, I know all that well enough, so relax with your quick assumptions.
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Okay, the fighting and nastiness needs to stop. You are particularly out of line, jimmmm. Knock it off.
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:20 AM   #353
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So who will win tonight?

I say Milan, revenge is a great motivator

Milan need to get a really good striker though, Gilardino is fine, but Inzaghi is way past it and Oliviera is crap.

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Ac Milan have far better players, but Benitez is a top tactician and you can never discount Liverpool in European competition.

Ac Milan 2-nil

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Milan have the better players but they don't have a real strike force (in europe anyway since ronaldo is cup tied). All of their goals come from midfield and this area is Liverpools strong point so i think whoever wins the midfield battle will win the match. I expect mascherano to stick to Kaka like a limpet and try not to allow him any space but Kaka is a rare breed of player in that he can be tightly marked and still find room to pass, shoot and influence the game, much like Zidane was able to.

The game needs an early goal i think or else it could be a real snoozefest. One thing we don't want is a repeat of Saturday
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I doubt it could be as bad as Saturday, it should be extremely passionate at the very least if not high class football.
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What's up with poor finals of late?

Ah well I'm glad AC won, they be my Italian team as such.

Maldini has won as many Champions League finals as Liverpool have....that amuses me

Pipo is what the second highest scorer in Champions league history now? I probably shouldn't have written him off before the match.

Anyway the wheelings and dealings of the transfer market to look forward to now.....Hopefully next season Liverpool and Arsenal will step up a gear and give Chelsea and Utd some proper competition....Maybe Tottenham will take that big step up as well if they sign right in the summer.....Aston Villa I reckon will also challenge for a UEFA cup spt this time round.
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A question for the Americans here, do many latinos play in the MLS?

Or if they are decent enough players do they generally end up playing in Mexico etc?

The only American players I can think of are either black or white, the only one with Mexican background is Bocanegra.
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I'm absolutely gutted over the final. Awful match. Should have been a repeat of 2005.
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Liverpool had more of the game and passed it around better but their crossing and shooting was awful. 10 shots off target speaks for itself. Rafa really needs to invest in some decent strikers this summer because what he's got now isn't good enough.
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