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Old 05-08-2007, 03:16 AM   #316
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^Grown out of supporting a team, WTF is that all about? How on earth do you grow out of supporting a team? Jesus, I've heard some shite when people start banging on about United but that is right at the top of the pile!

1Step, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, I was just disappointed that someone of your undoubted interest & knowledge of the game decided to latch onto that particularly boring subject. To the vast majority of United fans, United are FAR more than just a football club, after my Wife & Kids, there's nothing I care more for than United, & thats coming from a fan who won't attend another match ( at least unitl the yank has F***ED OFF)
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To the vast majority of United fans, United are FAR more than just a football club, after my Wife & Kids, there's nothing I care more for than United, & thats coming from a fan who won't attend another match ( at least unitl the yank has F***ED OFF)

And for Yeovil fans, Yeovil FC are FAR more than just a football club.

In the 21st Century, the vast majority of Man Utd fans are based outside of the land of Pom.

We must have about 500,000 folk down under who claim to support Man Utd. Probably 90% of them epitomise the term "bandwagoning."

This is by no means an anti-Man Utd jibe (it could apply to Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, West Ham) , but the reality is that if you were to compare the percentage of genuine, passionate fans for Yeovil with the percentage of fans who are equally as passionate for Man Utd, Yeovil would probably have a more pasisonate fan base.

It's unfortunate in this globalised world that passion is measured by quantity rather than quality.

Most Man Utd fans are not proper fans. They are unable to be, because they are based in foreign countries where EPL coverage is not a top priority.

Man Utd is the most "bandwagonised" club in the world, a "dishonour" previously held by the Chicago Bulls.
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thats coming from a fan who won't attend another match ( at least unitl the yank has F***ED OFF)
To change the topic slightly, this is another thing that confuses me. You love the club dearly by all accounts and yet refuse to go to matches simply because of who is on the board. The greatest thing about being a football fan is going to matches and supporting the players on the pitch. I hated Doug Ellis and his unbelievable lack of ambition but still tried to go to villa park as often as i could because it's a wonderful experience and the players need lifting.

The Glazers have always backed the manager and with the news that Fergie will be buying 3 more players this summer means they are backing him once again. And we know that a club of uniteds stature won't simply be buying cheap players, they will want the very best which means a significant financial outlay. They may not be dream chairmen (i'm no economist so i don't know the financial details of the takeover) and they may not be manchester born and bred but at least they back the manager and that's the main thing you want from a chairman.

I can't see why a fair few fans are boycotting the club they love and support just because of the personell in the board room who are quite clearly not just going to go away after making such a huge investment. I'm not having a go but i'd just like to know the reasons why.
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^ So the glazers are backing fergie, hey, since they took control over 30 players have left OT, many promising youngsters, who undoubtedly will go on to become good/great players, the incoming? the highest profile, carrick, £18mill, outgoing Ruud £8mill, & £10 mill for mikel, seems to cancel out the carrick fee, as I said last year, its all well & good having sounds coming out of OT were gonna buy this & that & the other, Hargreaves springs to mind, looks good in the press just after purchasing carrick, to make out they were also going after hargreaves, but Utd knew full well, that particular deal wasn't going to happen then, straight after bayern had sold ballack, but hey if its in the press most people will believe it, & secondly its ok fergie saying he wants 3 players but just wait & see how hard it will be getting said targets for one reason or another, also, the glazers are good for OT, why then, when most if not all Prem. clubs are either freezing ticket prices, & in some cases even lowering them, are United raising prices for the third consecutive season, thirdly & to UNITED fans most importantly, WE didn't, & don't want people who know nothing about the clubs history USING it as a cash cow, I've said before 1Step, do not think for 1 minute billionaires from across the globe are buying up Prem. clubs just for the prestige of owning them, billionaires by definition are very clever, astute businessmen, WHEN, not if TV rights are negotiable for each club, if you think there's a gulf between the big clubs now, just wait to see the chasm that will open up when it happens, & happen it will.
If fans of Villa, Arse, & any other club are happy to see their club taken over good for you, but a hell of a lot of longstanding United fans weren't, & still aren't happy with the glazers presence, & never will be, do you seriously think I enjoy not going to OT anymore, but as a matter of PRINCIPAL, & I believe every human being should have principals, I will not hand over 1 single penny of my hard earned cash to that family!

Oh, nearly forgot, when they tookover in May of that year, by september of the same year, over 25% of staff at OT had been given their marching orders also, funny how that didn't make headline news, wonder if the billionaires have friends in the press.

Just been looking at the RED ISSUE website, also, & that reminded me, 3 players coming in? I'll personally guarantee UNITED won't make 3 major signings in the summer, or IF they do, at least 1 high profile departure WILL occur from OT, how the hell can any business with debts, now over £700 mill BTW, spend so much money in the transfer market! I suppose the main difference with the UNITEDtakeover, to all the rest, is the fact UNITED'S buyers put the club into so much debt, would YOU feel happy if Villa were £700mill.+ in debt I very much doubt it, you see its not all about winning trophy's, supporting a club, as you so obviously know, PRINCIPALS! & IF they are still at the club say 5 years from now, I doubt for 1 minute I'll be posting any comments on this or any other football related forum, or even bothering to read about, or watch anything about UNITED, there are other things in life, funny/sad thing about the weekend, I really didn't celebrate the title win anything like I remember celebrating the '77 Cup final win over the bindippers, Uniteds first trophy since I started supporting them!
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Just 1 more thing 1Step, this, by M.U.S.T puts it all into perspective:

'The interest payment is one thing but what about the actual £660million? It is difficult to see how these sums can be reached without significant increases in ticket prices, which, as we always suspected, means the fans will effectively be paying for someone to borrow money to own their club.

Now can you see why the more CLUED up UNITED fans are, to say the least PISSED OFF!
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M.U.S.T . BTW, is the MANCHESTER UNITED SUPPORTERS TRUST, a large group of match, & non match going UNITED fans, who are still raising funds in the knowledge that 1 day when glazers business plan fails WE will be able to buy a large chunk of UNITED, & put the club in the hands of people who actually care about it, yes I DO donate, on a regular basis, as do tens of thousands around the globe!
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good answer

It wasn't long after i'd written that post actually that i thought about the rise in ticket prices. That's quite shameful really isn't it. The worlds richest club significantly increasing ticket prices. And the thing is they know that they'll still always sell out each match even if they do increase the prices.

Although don't forget it wasn't the Glazers who decided to sell Van Nistelrooy, it was Fergie himself because he apparently disrupted team harmony. And that sale hasn't exactly backfired this season has it?!

I suppose the difference between the Glazers at united and Lerner at villa is that united were already rich enough as it was and didn't need a new board as things were going swimmingly anyway. a case of if it's not broke, don't fix it. Whereas villa are a fairly big club that were going nowhere under Ellis and really did need the investment. Lerner has been a dream chairman so far. He's invested in a 13m state of the art training ground, sorted a money spinning kit deal with Nike for next season, has had proposals accepted to enlarge the stadium to 52,000 seats, made significant funds available for martin o'neill in the summer and handed out 40,000 free scarves to fans last weekend. So not all billionaires are bad eggs. But i can see where you're coming from.
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:36 AM   #323
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So not all billionaires are bad eggs.
Absolutely not, but when 1 comes along, puts a perfectly well run, profitable club £650mill + into debt, then transfers that debt to the club, & continually raises admission prices, & parking fees around the stadium, etc, he is not going to be welcome, ever!

Re; Ruud, glazer didn't sell him, but if that sale hadn't gone through, + the unexpected windfall for mikel, I seriously doubt the money would have been available for carrick, & the 3 targets for this summer, lets wait & see, I'm not saying UNITED won't make 3 signings, but I very much doubt, if they do, they'll be high profile, big money purchases, unless there's at least 1 big name departure, + many other lesser names leaving, unfortunatley I can see SMITHY going, which IMO would be a terrible move, but, again IMO I don't think the lad is getting a fair crack of the whip.
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Whilst he works hard for the team, i've never ever rated alan smith and was absolutely gobsmacked when united spent that money on him. He was linked with Villa in the jan transfer window and i was praying desperately that we didn't get him.

Leeds - 172 (38)
Man United - 60 (7)

For a striker that record is abysmal although i can see why he endears himself to the fans with his workrate.

And so to this weekend. HOPEFULLY West Ham will get relegated but it's looking unlikely. United will probably beat them but i can't see Wigan beating Sheff united unfortunatly. Unless they conspired to save both themselves. i.e. finding out at half time that west ham are 3-0 down and then sheff united letting wigan get a last minute penalty or something. Let's all pray that west ham go down. Cheats never prosper.
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Poor Hammers...but hey, we're champions again!





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Hi there! Couldnt resist popping in quickly to celebrate the league!

Bring on the cup final next weekend!
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Old 05-14-2007, 01:45 PM   #329
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Big Sam, didn't see that 1 coming, be interesting to see if Bolton can maintain their form now, should think Stuart Pearce will be sifting through sits. vac. columns soon.
Hate to say I told you so, but, I told you so, Citeh have sacked Psycho!
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Well i'm not surprised he's been sacked after their strikers have barely managed 5 goals between them, their best player is on the verge of leaving and their best defender is going to leave on a free too.

I wonder if Jewell will go there?
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