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Old 07-25-2016, 06:47 AM   #241
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Since they're like, the only machines I've ever used in all my life, I'm probably like that person born with a missing limb who doesn't know any different.

I'm still trying to figure out how you people with normal eyesight can possibly see any better than I can. I usually attribute it to magic.
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I'm still trying to figure out how you people with normal eyesight can possibly see any better than I can. I usually attribute it to magic.

It is. It is magic. There's a trick... this one guy knows it. OPTOMETRISTS HATE HIM.
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But back to pieces of electronic shit, I'm reminded of the bit in that old Flanagan book about how when U2 started out, Edge was using the shittiest, cheapest, nastiest effects gear imaginable, cause they were skint (well at first that was why). But he got this amazing work out of it. Why? He's an artist.

Now he's probably got more state of the art equipment than many minor African republics, but the great work is rarely to be seen.
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Brad Laner created one of my all time favourite shoegaze riffs, "One More" by Medicine, by running his guitar through a four-track recorder as if it were an effects pedal because he was super poor and had very little gear. (It's not for the faint of shoegaze-heart; an ability to endure/appreciate/love the first few minutes is my test of how shoegaze a person is.)

We shouldn't idealise the starving artist but bolts of inspiration and original workarounds that produce startling results rarely occur in a multi-millionaire's high end swanky studio-cum-palace-cum-medium sized town.
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Brad Laner created one of my all time favourite shoegaze riffs, "One More" by Medicine, by running his guitar through a four-track recorder as if it were an effects pedal because he was super poor and had very little gear. (It's not for the faint of shoegaze-heart; an ability to endure/appreciate/love the first few minutes is my test of how shoegaze a person is.)

We shouldn't idealise the starving artist but bolts of inspiration and original workarounds that produce startling results rarely occur in a multi-millionaire's high end swanky studio-cum-palace-cum-medium sized town.
The lesson I draw is to idealise neither the starving artist nor the plush, fat and happy artist, but rather to say that the artist is better than their tools. Always.
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The Cure were very good. As always "One Hundred Years" is a fucking experience live.

We got the Splendour set + a few, which killed any desire I had to fly to Melbourne and see them again. Just watch those fuckers play Just One Kiss...
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I can't see the board if I sit in the black of classrooms.

I mean, yeah, I can...but it's blurrier than it should be.
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But back to pieces of electronic shit, I'm reminded of the bit in that old Flanagan book about how when U2 started out, Edge was using the shittiest, cheapest, nastiest effects gear imaginable, cause they were skint (well at first that was why). But he got this amazing work out of it. Why? He's an artist.

Now he's probably got more state of the art equipment than many minor African republics, but the great work is rarely to be seen.

Now the Edge uses this unit, which is basically the Cadillac or the Rolls Royce of the effect unit (at least for his guitar)* Fractal Audio Systems - Axe-Fx II Guitar Processor, Preamp, effects processor, amp modeler, guitar effects, amp modeling

this unit, ironically, needs constant update on its firmware and software. who knew?

These days there are so many choices of effect units. No need for terrible DIY gear, I guess.
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I can't see the board if I sit in the black of classrooms.

I mean, yeah, I can...but it's blurrier than it should be.
you need glasses.
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you need glasses.
I hate to be at the risk of being too "on the nose", but....cheers, eagle eye
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Now the Edge uses this unit, which is basically the Cadillac or the Rolls Royce of the effect unit (at least for his guitar)* Fractal Audio Systems - Axe-Fx II Guitar Processor, Preamp, effects processor, amp modeler, guitar effects, amp modeling

this unit, ironically, needs constant update on its firmware and software. who knew?

These days there are so many choices of effect units. No need for terrible DIY gear, I guess.

Oh I think I'd respect the Edge a lot more if he did use terrible DIY gear. And grew a combover too.
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You know, I never would have thought of myself as someone with any interest in pub rock... and I'm not, really... but bit by bit my obsession with Midnight Oil has taken me back to the cusp of the 1980s and 'Place Without A Postcard'. Even then they were better than pub rock, but that is still, palpably, the world they are slowly emerging from. Love it. Dirty, melodic (more in the guitars than the, ah, singer), powerful. Choice cuts: Lucky Country, Don't Wanna Be The One, Quinella Holiday.

I'm not a muso and so don't discuss music in technical terms, but there's something to be said for a band with two lead guitarists. Television had that too, no?
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I'm not a muso and so don't discuss music in technical terms, but there's something to be said for a band with two lead guitarists. Television had that too, no?
Yeah, Television had two (lead) guitar players; I can't really think other band with 2 shredders/soloists; Wilco kinda falls into this category but often times Nels is the only one playing, so.......Most bands have dedicated rhythm and lead players. Boring, but works like champ in many bands like ACDC and Metallica.
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What about Sleater Kinney, or am I dreaming? I believe they don't have a bassist, and I'm pretty sure all of them who aren't the drummer play guitars.

I realised just how much Wilco owe to Television the first time I heard Marquee Moon (the song, but the album applies too). That's not meant in a pejorative way.
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What about Sleater Kinney, or am I dreaming? I believe they don't have a bassist, and I'm pretty sure all of them who aren't the drummer play guitars.

I realised just how much Wilco owe to Television the first time I heard Marquee Moon (the song, but the album applies too). That's not meant in a pejorative way.
sorry, I'm not too familiar with Slater Kinney but it seems to be that they do have 2 guitar players.

What's amazing is that Nels Cline, Wilco's current lead guitar player, is also heavily influenced by Tom Verlaine. too bad I can't really see guitar duel between Nels and Jeff as Nels often just threads/plays like a madman and Jeff admits that he can't really do that.


randomly, I recently decided to listen to Entroducing, DJ SHadow's debut album. you know what? instrumental hip hop isn't too bad. I like this album immensely
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