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Old 04-13-2004, 09:15 AM   #1
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Say what you will... wether you believe the accusations or not... but even if those accusations are true...

660 is one damn impressive number.
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Yeah, it is impressive. Good to see more than the batboy greeting him at home on this one too. #500 didnt go that way.
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i have to agree with rob neyer on this one, since when is becoming #3 on a list such a big deal? nobody ever goes, yaaaaay, we're number 3!

there has been way too much attention over this home run.
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Yeah, my favorite comment was by Kruk when they showed the highlight of his 100th homer. He said, "he looks like Kenny Lofton".....


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i have to agree with rob neyer on this one, since when is becoming #3 on a list such a big deal? nobody ever goes, yaaaaay, we're number 3!

there has been way too much attention over this home run.
Its gotten just as much press as it should
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when has passing willie friggin mays for third on the all time list become just another accomplishment? the all-time homerun record is one of the, if not THE most storied recrods in all of sport. this is a huge deal, a great accomplishment... should it be front page news for days? no... and it hasn't been. it got the appropriate coverage on the sports pages, and now that's about it. now we wait for him to pass Ruth... either late this season or early next.
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The news reports that the same kayak guy got balls # 660 and 661...

.... do you think it's only Jeff Kent who wants to kick his ass???
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a man gets accused of rape and he's sitll a media darling... a man gets accused of sticking a needle in his arm and being "surly" towards the press, and he's the anti-christ... go figure.


and yes... the same guy caught both homerun balls... he gave 660 back to bonds, kept 661 for himself.
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There is a reason why most of Barrys teammates dislike him.
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i dont know, i still have to agree with this

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As I'm sure I've mentioned two or a hundred times, I do a lot of radio spots (or "hits," as we seasoned professionals call them). And one of the questions I've been asked a few times in recent days is, "Where's the hype over Barry Bonds catching Willie Mays on the home-run list?"


Two things. One, I've seen plenty of hype. And two, one might reasonably argue that there's too much hype. Let's think about this for a moment ... Barry Bonds did not just break the major-league record for home runs. That's 755 (Hank Aaron). He did not break the National League record for home runs. That's 733 (also Aaron). He did not even break the Giants' franchise record for home runs. That's 644 (fellow named Willie Mays).


I mean, I'm sorry, but I just can't get that excited about somebody moving into a tie for the No. 3 spot on any list. Was it a big story on Aug. 9, 1960, when Ted Williams hit his 511th home run, tying Mel Ott for third on the all-time list? Was it a big story on June 23, 1966, when Mays hit his 521st home run, tying Williams for third on the all-time list? Was it a big story in 1972 when Aaron tied Mays for second on the all-time list?


Without checking, I would strongly suspect that those were not big national stories. Stories, yes. But not big stories, because the prize has always been first place, either in the majors or (when the leagues were actually separate entities) in the league.


I don't mean to belittle Bonds' accomplishment, and I've been following his every swing on TV, too. It's a big story, and all the more so because of whom he has tied. But this quest for third place certainly does not suffer from a lack of attention, and I'll be glad when Bonds has No. 3 all to himself, and we can simmer until next spring, when Bonds gets the Babe in his sights.


By the way, did you know that Bonds already passed Ruth in one important statistic? It happened last September. On the 14th, Bonds pinch-hit for Jeffrey Hammonds in the eighth inning and, facing Milwaukee's Mike Crudale, Bonds drew the 2,062nd walk of his career, tying him with Babe Ruth for No. 2 on the all-time list. On the 15th, Bonds passed Ruth with a sixth-inning intentional walk, issued by San Diego's Brandon Villafuerte.


Bonds finished 2003 with 2,070 walks, and has added seven this season, leaving him 113 short of Rickey Henderson, who finished his 2003 season -- and presumably his career -- with 2,190 walks. Considering that Bonds has averaged 173 walks per season over the last three seasons, absent injury he's almost certainly going to break the record in 2004.


Think anybody will notice? Probably not any more than anybody noticed on April 25, 2001, when Henderson broke Ruth's record. Or any more than anybody noticed on October 4, 2001, when Henderson homered to tie (or break, depending on which source you believe) Ty Cobb's all-time record for runs scored. Henderson broke his own record many times, the last time on Sept. 19, 2003. In the Dodgers' 6-4 loss to the Giants, Henderson pinch-hit for Guillermo Mota and was plunked by Jason Christiansen. He moved to second on Dave Roberts' bunt, held his base when Paul Lo Duca grounded out, and sprinted home when Shawn Green singled to center field. Henderson didn't play another game, and so he didn't score another run.


And Henderson's runs record, as opposed to Aaron's home-run record, looks fairly safe for now. Barry's still roughly 350 runs behind Rickey, and lately he has been averaging roughly 115 per season. Bonds turns 40 this summer, and I would rate his chance of catching Henderson at somewhere well south of 50/50.
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Its not just the fact that he broke the record, or is at 3rd place, its that he has an exellent chance to pass Hank. He still has alot of swings left in him. Mays finished... finished with 660, meaning he didn't hit anymore, duh! Bonds still has a lot left in him.
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Great article Chiz...
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ahhh how i yearn for the good ole days...

back when stadiums weren't named after corporations... well... um except for wrigley field...

and when players didn't use performance enahncers... well... except for many players from the 60s, including willie mays admitting to popping the occasional amphedamine to give him an energy boost...

when players didn't cheat to get ahead... well... except for gaylord perry and ty cobb and a few other hall of famers...

and when they cared about their bodies... well... except for mickey mantle obliterating his liver with alcohol...

when people didn't hit rediculous homerun numbers, breaking the record every year... well... except for when babe ruth would hit more homeruns than 10 entire teams combined

when it wasn't all about the money... well... except for those 1919 white sox, and of course that pete rose guy...

when the yankees didn't buy all their players... well... except for in the 1920s when harry frazee baisicly sold off the entire red sox team, not just babe ruth, to the yankees...

and when the yankees didn't win every year... well... except for 1923, 1927, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1977 & 1981...


ahhhhhhhhhhhhh yes how i yearn for the good ole days.
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your sarcasm is duly noted
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