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Old 04-15-2004, 10:42 PM   #16
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Bonds juiced. Him passing Say Hay is a joke.
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Old 04-23-2004, 03:38 AM   #17
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I like Barry Bonds. I have seen him working out in the same gym I while visiting No. Calif.
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The thing people seem to be overlooking with the Barry Juicing theories is this:
With so much attention currently on the whole Balco/Steroids situation, he's sure to have stopped taking whatever he was taking if he was taking something. Yet he just homered in 7 straight games. Is it possible maybe he wasn't juiced all along? There now should be some doubt creeping in about that.
The ball...thats another story...juice city, and the pitching is brutally watered down, but still the man statistically will go down as the all time greatest if he plays 2 more seasons. So he doesn't like the press...that probably makes him smart.
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well said hewson

and even if he has juiced in the past, he would be an idiot if he were still doing so today... and son of a gun, he's still hitting the ball at will.

this was on ESPN.com

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by Eric Neel, ESPN.com Page 2

Forget Hank and the Babe. Never mind 714 and 755.

Think Teddy Ballgame and .406.

We're all in a lather about the home runs but you watch, Barry's going to backdoor us with a .400 season.

Through 15 games, he's got a line straight out of Little League. He's hitting .500, nine homers, 20 walks, 19 RBI, a .672 on-base percentage, and a 1.342 slugging average.

We shouldn't be asking him about steroids, we should be asking him what life is like on his home planet.

The safe bet says he'll cool off some between now and October. The pragmatist will tell you it's only 15 games, and great as Bonds is, he'll eventually dip below the Splinter-line and stay there.

But my momma didn't raise no pragmatist.

I say he's gonna do it, and here's why:

One, he walks about as often as a hummingbird flaps its wings, strikes out about as often as Dick Cheney makes a public appearance, and never, ever misses a mistake pitch.
Like Williams, his official AB numbers stay in the 400s, and like Williams, he don't waste 'em.

Two, with the possible exception of the equally freakish Jore-El Clemens down in Houston, every pitcher in the league bugs out a bit when Bonds digs in.

Some guys are afraid and miss their spots, and other guys feel bold and challenge him. Either way, like Costanza's girlfriend, Barry's got "hand" every night, and like Costanza, the pitchers facing him are just hoping to avoid humiliation.

Three, I saw him pull a 99-mph Eric Gagne fastball 500 feet foul at SBC Park last Friday night. Then I saw him hit the next pitch, which was traveling just a little it faster, deep into the center-field seats.

And those two pitches marked my official and permanent retirement from the business of underestimating Barry Bonds.

Four, he hit .404 after the All-Star break in 2002 and .388 last year.

Five, he knows a whole lot of people would hate to see him do it. And motivation matters.

Six, he knows a .400 season, and a blow-by of Hank in 2006, would pretty much put the greatest-player-of-all-time debate to bed. And like I said, motivation matters.

Seven, every spray single, inside-out double against the shift, and ball to the gap works like a BALCO-rumor smackdown.

Eight, after his birthday in July, he'll like the sound of ".400 at 40 in '04," and he'll picture logo T-shirts and hats, and that'll be all she wrote.

Nine, the home runs are so yesterday.

A run at .400 is a fresh challenge, and the perfect distraction from the pressures of chasing down the Babe and the Hammer.

Ten, that cushy chair in the clubhouse is the X-factor.

And finally, .400 is just a number, just like 70 and 660 and 755 are just numbers, and nobody knows that better than Barry. He won't tighten up in the home stretch, and he won't be afraid to tramp on sacred ground.

It all adds up -- .400 is going down. I'm sure of it.

In fact, I'm so sure, that even as a lifelong Dodger fan, I'll make this promise:

If it doesn't happen, I'll attend the last series of the season, three games between the Dodgers and Giants in L.A., wearing black and orange face paint, a San Francisco cap, and a Barry Bonds jersey.

You have my word. And if you happen to be in L.A. that weekend, you can come have your picture taken with me.
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Old 04-23-2004, 12:23 PM   #20
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im sure baseball's 18 strikes and you're out stance has scared a lot off people of the juice
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Bonds juiced. Him passing Say Hay is a joke.
Whatever Bonds even if he isn't juiced would kick Hanks ass
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Put it this way: if roids enhance your performance THAT much, why is that no one else in baseball is performing as well as Bonds has for years? What about all the other roiders? He's f'in amazing.
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Put it this way: if roids enhance your performance THAT much, why is that no one else in baseball is performing as well as Bonds has for years? What about all the other roiders? He's f'in amazing.
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im surprised that no one has mentioned that the owner of BALCO has admittied to giving steroids to Bonds and others...

and look, i dont think anybody is saying Bonds isnt a good player, I think everyone can admit he is a great player, but, the roids can turn him into a freakishly good player. like say, going from hitting 49 home runs in a year, to saaaay, 73 (in his late 30's mind you, usually when ones skills are declining).
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Hey, if you don't mind that some of the most cherished records in baseball history will be held by a cheater, then life is great. It doesn't matter if he cheated a little, or alot, it's still cheating.
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The thing people seem to be overlooking with the Barry Juicing theories is this:
With so much attention currently on the whole Balco/Steroids situation, he's sure to have stopped taking whatever he was taking if he was taking something. Yet he just homered in 7 straight games. Is it possible maybe he wasn't juiced all along? There now should be some doubt creeping in about that.
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well said hewson

and even if he has juiced in the past, he would be an idiot if he were still doing so today... and son of a gun, he's still hitting the ball at will.
Wait a minute here, folks!!!

Steroids are MUSCLE BUILDERS not short term performance enhancers. Even if he quit using in light of the BALCO scandle, he is still benefitting from the muscle tissue generated in the past. Whether or not he used them is another matter entirely, but look at pictures of Barry in his Pirate uniform. Very different body type.
Mark McGwire and Brady Anderson are other examples of massive muscle build up in a short period of time.
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Put it this way: if roids enhance your performance THAT much, why is that no one else in baseball is performing as well as Bonds has for years? What about all the other roiders? He's f'in amazing.
Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa.
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Yeah, it is impressive. Good to see more than the batboy greeting him at home on this one too. #500 didnt go that way.
Hilarious. You could hear the crickets chirping in the dugout. Who, by the way, also didn't stop to congratulate Bonds.

Would have loved to hear the sniping on the bench as Barry rounded the bases...

Barry reaped what he sowed on that one. I don't mind him not being good w/ the media, because they are a bunch of self serving @$$holes anyway. Not respecting your teammates is a sin, and he paid for it in front of all who either watched the game or saw the highlights on ESPN.
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