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Old 09-18-2005, 10:14 PM   #16
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they exploded like no other band. I can't agree that U2, as much as I love them, at any point in time had a larger audience than Guns N' Roses in 1991-1993. More diverse crowd? Yes. Larger? No.
Yes they exploded and imploded faster than any band in history, probably. And yes they were big, but I think you are letting your personal perceptions cloud your arguments.

Zoo TV and the height of GnR were about the same time. ZOO TV played to 5.5 million. U2 soldout stadiums worldwide. GnR sold out stadiums, but only with a double billing with Metallica.

There is no way that even at their height GnR had a bigger audience.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:42 PM   #17
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Led Zeppelin are the 2nd best selling rock and roll band after The Beatles, and they were a sensation when they broke and were pretty much always massive until they split up...I'd say IV was their high-point (it sold 20million+ right?) so I'd have them ahead of GnR definitely.
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Yes they exploded and imploded faster than any band in history, probably. And yes they were big, but I think you are letting your personal perceptions cloud your arguments.

Zoo TV and the height of GnR were about the same time. ZOO TV played to 5.5 million. U2 soldout stadiums worldwide. GnR sold out stadiums, but only with a double billing with Metallica.

There is no way that even at their height GnR had a bigger audience.
False. Guns N' Roses toured alone with support bands(Soundgarden among them) for a long, long time. They sold out stadiums every where they went. The mini tour in which Metallica was apart of was very short and it resulted in a riot in Montreal. Guns toured for about 3 years in support of the Use Your Illusion albums and you're telling me they did all that touring with Metallica? Ummm no. U2 is my favorite band so how can you say I'm letting my personal perceptions cloud my judgement? I honestly don't remember U2 haveing anywhere near the hype surrounding them in 1991.
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False. Guns N' Roses toured alone with support bands(Soundgarden among them) for a long, long time. They sold out stadiums every where they went. The mini tour in which Metallica was apart of was very short and it resulted in a riot in Montreal. Guns toured for about 3 years in support of the Use Your Illusion albums and you're telling me they did all that touring with Metallica? Ummm no. U2 is my favorite band so how can you say I'm letting my personal perceptions cloud my judgement?
No I didn't say the whole tour was with Metallica. But they did rely on big bands as supporters and co-headliners.

I'm saying your personal perceptions cloud your judgement because you are citing the specific time for you and your experience. You weren't a U2 fan until after Zoo TV, if you had personal experience of the Zoo TV days your judgement may be different.

The majority of the US legs of the tour they were not selling out stadiums unless they had a co-headliner. U2 at that time were.
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Wow that link^^ provides some insight to the Use Your Illusion Tour vs Zoo TV. Long read though with alot of boring stats but the U2 stats were backed up fairly well where as the Guns N' Roses stats not quit as well. As for as who had the more successful tour it depends on how you interpret it I guess. I do know that AFD has sold more than any U2 album and the hype and build up for the Illusion albums was far bigger than Achtung Baby. Whether or not they had the bigger audience I guess is debateable. Oh well. That's what the thread was for.
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I'm saying your personal perceptions cloud your judgement because you are citing the specific time for you and your experience. You weren't a U2 fan until after Zoo TV, if you had personal experience of the Zoo TV days your judgement may be different.
This is true. I wasn't a U2 fan back then and you're right I can only gauge this by my memory and experience. What I experienced was every kid in highschool seemed to own the Illusion albums where nobody ever really talked much about U2 in comparison. It wasn't even close. Maybe it's the way Guns N' Roses got so big that makes them seem bigger. it happend over night and it got so big so fast that it makes it seem huge in comparison to what was going on with U2 and Zoo TV. Remember even before the Use Your Illusion albums came out Gn'R toured arenas and a few stadiums on thier own(only headliner) on the backs of AFD and Lies alone. That's crazy. who does that after only one real album(AFD) and basically an EP(Lies)?
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I can't recall a single Guns n' Roses song.

I guess that means I'm both old and adept at blocking out stuff I don't like.
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^ not even November Rain? That song is like heaven!
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^ not even November Rain? That song is like heaven!
Nope. Not even that one.


Well, at least not by name. It's possible I've heard it on a commercial or in passing sometime, but I've never really connected a song to the name Guns N' Roses.

(there are a lot of popular bands I couldn't name a song of though. if it doesn't catch my interest, it just gets filtered out. )
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GnR weren't ever at the same level U2 have been. And U2 certainly haven't been the world's biggest band. They might be America's golden child, in an adopted sort of way, but that doesn't make them the world's biggest.

It does all come back to era and where you are as to who is the biggest in your neck of woods.
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It does all come back to era and where you are as to who is the biggest in your neck of woods.

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It does all come back to era and where you are as to who is the biggest in your neck of woods.
Exactly, and for the UK I think Oasis would certainly qualify into the top ten. They're one of the few bands that look likely to knock Sgt. Pepper's off the top spot of the UK's biggest selling album of all time. Knebworth (although surpassed by Robbie Williams now) was impressive. Even today concerts sell out in under an hour, an Oasis single is virtually guaranteed to hit number one (not even U2 can say that) and what Liam buys from Tesco's is still front page news.

I remember once reading a magazine article on the top 50 biggest bands ever (it was based on biggest gig ever, album sales, weeks in chart etc). They came up with Pink Floyd as the top band.
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I remember once reading a magazine article on the top 50 biggest bands ever (it was based on biggest gig ever, album sales, weeks in chart etc). They came up with Pink Floyd as the top band.
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Would U2 not have been bigger than GNR ever was around the release of The Joshua Tree...i really have no idea how big they were then as i was just a year old...but i have always been led to believe that was when they were their biggest ever....
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