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Old 01-09-2008, 11:09 PM   #256
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I still haven't ready Blood Meridian. Is it as good as the Road?
Apples to Oranges, really. Different setting. I enjoyed both immensely, but would be hard pressed to say which was "better".

Lance, Scott's overrated but he's still capable of making strong films here and there, so I'm hoping this will be another one.
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Apples to Oranges, really. Different setting. I enjoyed both immensely, but would be hard pressed to say which was "better".

Lance, Scott's overrated but he's still capable of making strong films here and there, so I'm hoping this will be another one.
Definitely. Matchstick Men was pretty good and I still haven't seen the DC of Kingdom of Heaven or American Gangster yet to judge.

It's gotta be hard for the guy, knowing he'll never top the Alien/Blade Runner duo, you know?
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I'm not Scott fan, but I have to say the Director's Cut of Kingdom of Heaven is one of his Top 3 films. Really amazing piece of work. And a screenplay by William Monahan, BTW.
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Laz, not even Blade Runner?

I've yet to see the Director's Cut of Kingdom of Heaven. I saw the theatrical release and did not enjoy it.
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Well Blade Runner would be one of the other 2. But I just saw The Final Cut in the theatre, and while it's pretty visionary, I'm hesitant to call it an out and out masterpiece. It's practically ALL atmosphere.

I'd say Alien is probably a stronger film overall.
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American Gangster was just one of the laziest "big" films I've seen in quite a long time, truly awful in some respect, though not an outright bad film. And A Good Year is supposedly even more of a drag.
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For the record, I liked Matchstick Man a lot as well. But considering how esteemed Ridley Scott's name is among film geeks, his filmography is pretty spotty, and has only approached greatness on a few occasions--American Gangster certainly not one of them; a shame, as on paper it sure seemed like it was going to be a classic.

I should say here that I've never seen Black Hawk Down, which I know has its proponents.
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Black Hawk Down really is an impressive film. Not quite exceptional maybe, and certainly not as fantastic as its most hardcore supporters claim, but it's easily one of his better projects.

I haven't seen Kingdom of Heaven yet either, though I definitely should, given how well received the DC is.
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Scott did Gladiator, and that's certainly a great film.
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Gladiator was very good, and I liked it when I saw it in theatres. But when it was nominated for (and won) those Oscars I was like WTF? It's not a masterpiece, it just seemed like very high-grade summer entertainment to me. Not as shallow as something like Troy, as Crowe elevated anything he's in, but not nearly as deep as it was pretending to be.
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Gladiator was very good, and I liked it when I saw it in theatres. But when it was nominated for (and won) those Oscars I was like WTF? It's not a masterpiece, it just seemed like very high-grade summer entertainment to me. Not as shallow as something like Troy, as Crowe elevated anything he's in, but not nearly as deep as it was pretending to be.
When I first saw it in the theatre I was impressed but as time has gone on it has not aged well imo...

I agree with Lance about Black Hawk Down, this is probably my 3rd favorite Scott film behind Alien and Blade Runner...
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I particularly liked Rescue Dawn with Steve Zahn and Christian Bale.
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Writers Guild of America nominees:

Original:

Judd Apatow, Knocked Up
Diablo Cody, Juno
Tamara Jenkins, The Savages
Tony Gilroy, Michael Clayton
Nancy Oliver, Lars and the Real Girl


Adapted:

Paul Thomas Anderson, There Will Be Blood
Joel & Ethan Coen, No Country For Old Men
Sean Penn, Into the Wild
Ronald Harwood, The Diving Bell and The Buttefly
James Vanderbilt, Zodiac


Nice to see the recognition of Zodiac, but it wasn't one of the more memorable aspects of the film to me. Fincher should have been a DGA nom.

Lance, Into the Wild IS getting some big Oscar noms. Time to accept the inevitable. DGA+WGA is pretty much a sure thing. Same goes for There Will Be Blood, which is obviously very good news.
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I just found this channel on DirecTV called Reelz (238) which is all about movies/the industry.

There's gonna be an hour-long John Carpenter doc on at 8 ET.

Blade Runner has extraordinary atmosphere. But for all of the sci-fi in the film, it's a character drama, and a very good one at that. I really can't think of anything to dislike in that movie.

Plus, Batty's monologue at the end is one of my favorite moments ever in film... and Rutger Hauer improvised that. Fuck me, that's amazing.
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I'm having a hard time believing anyone ever improvised anything on a Ridley Scott set.
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