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Old 01-11-2007, 02:22 PM   #46
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would never happen

i really dont think this signing will increase interest much at all, definitely not 250 million dollars worth of interest
The signing will generate much more than $250 million globally, in sports paraphanelia alone.

In the short term it will generate interest in the sport across the US, or at least in the cities that have franchises. But, on it's own, the Beckham signing will not have much of an impact on the sport in the U.S.

However,what may happen, in the long term, is that more and more world-class players will follow Beckham's lead and come to North America. If Beckham has success players will regard MLS as a viable career option. Of course, if he flops then the status quo will prevail.

If more world-class players cross the pond this will have a huge impact on American soccer. For one, it may encourage the best American players to stay home rather than seeking employment in Europe. And two, the players that are already here will have the advantage of playing with better athletes which should, theoretically, allow them to grow and become better players themselves.

Everyone looks at the money, and it is an astronomical sum, but time is what is needed to accurately judge this deal. I, for one, will wait before judging the merits of this deal.
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If the sport didn't take off here when Pele played professionally in NY in the 70's, no chance it takes off when Penis Spice starts playing in LA.
But where I live, soccer is huge! I'd say high school sports goes basketball, soccer, then football.

As far as youth here in West Michigan, Soccer seems to be the largest and still growing sport that is signed up for. I know it's just one area but I keep thinking of answers like Headache. He just doesn't like the sport. I hated it too as a kid. Now I love it and play it more than I play basketball, which was my favorite sport.

All I'm saying is in Headache and my lifespan of 25 years, soccer has gone nowhere in N. America. But if the youth are playing it and enjoying it now more than before, we could see a change.

I do think also that it would be nice and helpful to see more soccer on TV. But hey, golf is great action too.
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The signing will generate much more than $250 million globally, in sports paraphanelia alone.

In the short term it will generate interest in the sport across the US, or at least in the cities that have franchises. But, on it's own, the Beckham signing will not have much of an impact on the sport in the U.S.

However,what may happen, in the long term, is that more and more world-class players will follow Beckham's lead and come to North America. If Beckham has success players will regard MLS as a viable career option. Of course, if he flops then the status quo will prevail.

If more world-class players cross the pond this will have a huge impact on American soccer. For one, it may encourage the best American players to stay home rather than seeking employment in Europe. And two, the players that are already here will have the advantage of playing with better athletes which should, theoretically, allow them to grow and become better players themselves.

Everyone looks at the money, and it is an astronomical sum, but time is what is needed to accurately judge this deal. I, for one, will wait before judging the merits of this deal.
Even if all the best players in the world played in the MLS, it still wouldn't generate much interest in the US.
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Popularity in the US rankings:

NFL
MLB
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Nascar
NCAA basketball
Golf
WWE Wrestling
NCAA Football
World Series of Poker
Celebrity Poker
Indy Car racing
NHL
Tennis
NCAA Hockey
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Projected Popularity in the US rankings after Becham's arrival:

NFL
MLB
NBA
Nascar
NCAA basketball
Golf
WWE Wrestling
NCAA Football
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Indy Car racing
NHL
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All I'm saying is in Headache and my lifespan of 25 years, soccer has gone nowhere in N. America. But if the youth are playing it and enjoying it now more than before, we could see a change.

I do think also that it would be nice and helpful to see more soccer on TV. But hey, golf is great action too.
This is a really funny article about why soccer isn't popular in the US.
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But at about age 10, something happens to the children of the United States. Soccer is dropped, quickly and unceremoniously, by approximately 88 per cent of all young people. They move onto baseball, football, basketball, hockey, field hockey, and, sadly, golf. Shortly thereafter, they stop playing these sports, too, and begin watching these sports on television, including, sadly, golf.
link http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/s...741375,00.html
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Copied from another board during the World's biggest sporting event, the World cup.

I don't agree with all of it, but some excellent points as to why soccer isn't more popular in the US




"Actually, the football worls should rejoice in the non-acceptance by
the general US public.

We have it so good right now here in the US.


I can see every game (the DVR is a truly wonderful thing) unlike when I
first moved here, and it is still relatively unspoiled unlike the
"home" sports. 2 of those sports had their eternally long
"championships" over the last 2 weeks, I barely noticed.


Mass US acceptance of Football would just ruin it fo rcommercial
reasons. Think "Champions plus runners-up league" style commercial
influence and quadruple it.


See, in US sports, the biggest factors are: "How many games can we have
?" and "How many commercials can we fit in ?" The whole set up of all
the major sports in the US have been changed by TV.


Playoffs are expanded to include teams sometimes who have lost as many
games as they have won


Rules are changed to make the games have more breaks ("2-minute
warning", "7th Inning stretch", etc)


TV timeouts making 40 minute games about 3 hours. American Football for
example is a 60 minute game, with 30 minutes of action stretched out to
3 and a half hours. Talk about time-wasting, it's full of it, 45-second
play clocks being taken down to the last second before every play, I've
been to live games, it's mostly a bunch of guys standing around doing
nothing interrupted with some occasional action. unlimited
substitutions, different players on offense vs. defense. The governing
body actually has rules on how high the socks should be and ensuring
the players don't actually celebrate scores. And the
officiating.........makes Soccer referees look infallible, and that's
WITH instant replay available to them and about 5 of them on the field
!


Baseball - What a sham. Biggest story is steroids. Games move so slowly
they need entertainment (people in silly costumes running around the
track once in a while) to make it palatable to the paying consumer.
Again, it's about how many commercials and beers can be sold. If
they're not on strike that is. The baseball fan who decries soccer for
being low scoring will be the first to call a 1-0 game a "classic".
Classic. Officiating is again terrible, every umpire has their own
mythical strike zone. A viewer has no way of knowing if a ball is a
strike or not, the relevant area is ONLY in the umpire's head, and he
changes is at necessary depending on the star power of th eplayer. Yes,
american sports are sure into fair play.............


Basketball - Played by mostly genetic freaks. The only game where a
team who is down is TOLD to deliberately foul. Yes, fair play again.
Unlimited substitutions, timeouts on a whim. Poor officiating. Belly
flops when a big guy hits a little guy (sound familiar ? )


Oh, and let's not even get started on the hypocritical money-making
sham that is the NCAA.............fair play my ass..........


No, things are fine the way they are with Soccer. Let's NOT try and get
mass US acceptance, let's NOT have rule changes to include more TV
stoppages, and a 128-team World cup every 6 months."
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As far as Beckham vs Pele. the movie wasn't called "Bend it like Pele."


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091219/

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as hard as it is to belive, many americans simply find soccer/football to be boring. and it doesn't matter how many big name soccer stars come to the MLS. we still, as a whole, find it boring. all the big name ice hockey players come to the NHL... it gets lower ratings than women's college softball.

just like many find baseball and american football to be boring.

so you guys keep soccer/football, and we'll keep baseball and american football, and we'll all be the happy for it.

now the NHL was huge in the USA when gretzky and lemuiex played. why? they were dynamic offensive players. if a player of the level of pele or beckham came to the MLS in their prime? maybe... maybe you'd have a chance. but a guy that most soccer/football fans consider to be well past his prime? i doubt it.


also, i've seen more of my fair share of soccer in my life time... my sister was a division 1 soccer player. so on top of the hundreds of her games i've seen, i've seen plenty of men's D1 games as well (doubleheaders and such).

is it at the high level of the leagues in europe? of course not... but i can enjoy a good high school basketball game, despite it not being at a high level. i can enjoy a good college baseball game, or a good college football game... soccer on any level simply makes my eyes bleed. no disrespect meant, it's just my own personal opinion. and it's shared by many here in the states, and will likely never change.
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Even if all the best players in the world played in the MLS, it still wouldn't generate much interest in the US.

i think there is a big market for soccer (futbol) in los angeles and california

radio ratings for L A

5 of top ten stations are Spanish language
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Soccer is infinitely more exciting than Baseball and somewhat more exciting than American Football.

And Basketball kicks all their asses.

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Copied from another board during the World's biggest sporting event, the World cup.

I don't agree with all of it, but some excellent points as to why soccer isn't more popular in the US
Yes, we all saw that article during the World Cup. However, the author's "arguments" are completely unable to explain why soccer isn't very popular in China and India, the world's two most populous countries (especially India, given the history of British colonialism).

The simple fact is that soccer has had almost no competition for supremacy over the last century in Europe, South America and Africa (though basketball is slowly taking a foothold), whereas it faces fierce competition in other countries like the USA, Canada, China, India, Australia, etc.
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Good point with the article. I will hush about soccer on tv and keep watching games on the compy.
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Yes, we all saw that article during the World Cup. However, the author's "arguments" are completely unable to explain why soccer isn't very popular in China and India, the world's two most populous countries (especially India, given the history of British colonialism).

The simple fact is that soccer has had almost no competition for supremacy over the last century in Europe, South America and Africa (though basketball is slowly taking a foothold), whereas it faces fierce competition in other countries like the USA, Canada, China, India, Australia, etc.
Well, having been in China during a major soccer tournament, (EURO 2000) I can tell you it certainly DOES capture the local interest and is extremely popular, lots of huddling around TV's on flatbed trucks in the middle of Shanghai in the wee hours, lotsall games live on TV, etc. Why would you say it's not very popular there ? Same in Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Korea, etc.

India ? Cricket fanatics. The european colonialism certainly left it's mark big-time. For whatever reason they took to it a lot more so than soccer.
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Good point with the article. I will hush about soccer on tv and keep watching games on the compy.
I like how it is now: Popular enough to guarantee coverage of all the big events, weekly games, etc. Not so big as for American TV companies to fuck it up.

Beckham is waayyyyyy overrated except in dead ball situations.
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hmm.

my interest level in soccer went from

non existant to non existant.

carry on.
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