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Old 10-27-2005, 11:58 PM   #1
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Beatles: Lennon vs McCartney

Although every Beatles song not penned by Harrison is attributed to "Lennon/McCartney" or "McCartney/Lennon", we all know that generally speaking, whoever is singing the lead on any given song is usually responsible for the bulk of said song. So, my question is, which of the two - Lennon or McCartney - do you think is/was the better songwriter? For reference, I've compiled lists of what I, and I think most, consider to be each songwriter's best songs (I am fairly certain that the lists are accurate as to who wrote what):

Lennon

A Hard Day's Night
Any Time At All
I'll Be Back
Help
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
Ticket To Ride
It's Only Love
Norwegian Wood(This Bird Has Flown)
Nowhere Man
Girl
In My Life
Rain
I'm Only Sleeping
She Said She Said
And Your Bird Can Sing
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
A Day In The Life
I Am The Walrus
Strawberry Fields Forever
All You Need Is Love
Dear Prudence
Happiness Is A Warm Gun
Julia
Revolution
The Ballad Of John And Yoko
Come Together
I Want You(She's So Heavy)
Across The Universe

McCartney

I Want To Hold Your Hand
I Saw Her Standing There
Love Me Do
P.S. I Love You
All My Loving
If I Fell
Can't Buy Me Love
Things We Said Today
Eight Days A Week
I've Just Seen A Face
Yesterday
Drive My Car
I'm Looking Through You
Michelle
Eleanor Rigby
Here There And Everywhere
For No One
Hey Jude
Paperback Writer
Getting Better
She's Leaving Home
When I'm Sixty-Four
Lovely Rita
Lady Madonna
Back In The U.S.S.R.
Ob-la-di-Ob-la-da
Martha My Dear
Blackbird
Helter Skelter
Honey Pie
Hello, Goodbye
Penny Lane
You Never Give Me Your Money
Two Of Us
Let It Be
The Long And Winding Road
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I go for Paul McCartney.
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Re: Beatles: Lennon vs McCartney

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A Day In The Life
I Am The Walrus
Strawberry Fields Forever
That's my top 3 right there! So I guess I'm more of a Lennon fan.

It's funny but if you look at Paul's list, nearly every song has something to do with love!
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I think it's a toss up.

But Paul get bashed WAY to much.

Look at those tunes!
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:07 AM   #5
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Do you know who wrote 'She's Leaving Home'? This may affect my response.
McCartney - added it to the list.
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Blackbird and She's Leaving Home tilt it towards McCartney for me. It it was not for those two, I would rate them equal. Sentimental choices I know.
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Some small corrections to Ruckman's list, since apparently all I do around here is wait for Beatles threads so I can correct shit:
  • "Eight Days A Week" is mostly McCartney, even though Lennon sings the lead
  • Lennon thought "It's Only Love" was one of the worst songs he'd ever written (not a correction, but I thought it was funny you had it up there; I like it, though)
  • "Two of Us" was also Mac's baby (there's some question of whether it's about Paul and John or Paul and Linda)
  • "I Want To Hold Your Hand" could probably go either way
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But Paul get bashed WAY to much.
Yeah, sucks to live long in this industry.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:17 AM   #8
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McCartney has been around forever, is way past his prime - he got a chance to write past-prime music that wasn't even in the same platau as his Beatles-era compositions and people started thinking of him as 'old'. Lennon, on the other hand, went from the Beatles to making several great solo records to being dead without a chance to make music past his prime. As such, people see him simply as this larger-than-life legend who is eternally remembered as a younger and hipper than Mac.
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McCartney has been around forever, is way past his prime - he got a chance to write past-prime music that wasn't even in the same platau as his Beatles-era compositions and people started thinking of him as 'old'. Lennon, on the other hand, went from the Beatles to making several great solo records to being dead without a chance to make music past his prime. As such, people see him simply as this larger-than-life legend who is eternally remembered as a younger and hipper than Mac.
That's only true if you think John was great solo.

I think he sucked.

George was actually the best post-Beatle Beatle.
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mccartney vs. lennon solo-wise is a whole different animal. i was under the impression that this thread was not about post-beatle beatles careers, but about the beatles.

all those songs are great, on both lists. i can't say i like one better than the other. about equal numbers from the mccartney list and the lennon list were songs that i declared my #1 all-time favorite song at one point in my life. coming from a kid who idolized paul mccartney...
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I go for a draw
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Great songs on both lists, but I have to vote LENNON. More of my favorites are on his list:

A Hard Day's Night
Help
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
Ticket To Ride
In My Life
Rain
She Said She Said
A Day In The Life
Strawberry Fields Forever
All You Need Is Love
Dear Prudence
Revolution
The Ballad Of John And Yoko

I just picked a few highlights from the list
And I saw McCartney 3 years ago, going again in Nov. Mainly for the nostalgia portion of it, and to take my daughter Maddy, again.
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Hard to pick, in general I enjoy McCartney's songs more on their albums and IMO he was absolutely great with melody. My top 10 would probably look more equal than that, though.

I think the whole "competition" and the eternal debate who of the two is better is unnecessary. They complimented each other and both should be mentioned in the same breath when talking about the band.
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I think the whole "competition" and the eternal debate who of the two is better is unnecessary. They complimented each other and both should be mentioned in the same breath when talking about the band.
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I go for Lennon & McCartney. . The greatest song writing couple in the history of popular music. No need to rank these two among eachother.
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