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Old 12-15-2006, 01:53 PM   #1
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Baseball Dream Team

I'm in a baseball frame of mind here at work today, for various reasons, so....

Write out your dream starting 8, one bench player, 5 man rotation and closer, let's not go for full 25 man rosters.

Criteria - a player you've seen play on TV or in person and can vividly recall, not all-time players. Put together a team designed to win, not just the best player you've seen at each position. In other words, make sure you have a lead-off hitter, some defense out there, etc.

And here we go....

1B - Eddie Murray (steady as hell from both sides of the plate, clutch hitter, decent fielder)
2B - Roberto Alomar (in his prime, was such a total package)
SS - Ozzie Smith (I could have gone with A-Rod or Ripken, but, I want the Wizard's defense)
3B - Mike Schmidt (500 HR, multi gold glove winner, say no more)
LF - Rickey Henderson (my leadoff hitter, you can keep Bonds)
CF - Ken Griffey Jr. (Could do it all for many years)
RF - Tony Gwynn (This was the toughest choice for me, but, when a guy bats over .300 for 19 years, screw it, I'll take hi. Once upon a time, he could run and field, too)
Bench - George Brett (If I need a clutch hit off the bench, hard to pick a better hitter)
C - Pudge Rodriguez (If I could remember Bench, I'd choose him, but, Pudge aint bad)

SP - Clemens (Speaks for itself)
SP - Pedro (Ditto)
SP - Steve Carlton (Jerk to the media, but, great great pitcher)
SP - Tom Seaver (Perfect mechanics, check out his career stats)
SP - Greg Maddux (Again, tough call here, could have gone with Randy Johnson, but, Maddux it is)

RP - Rivera (Sorry Yankee haters)

And, lastly, just for kicks, the batting order:

1 - Henderson
2 - Gwynn
3 - Murray
4 - Schmidt
5 - Griffey Jr.
6 - Alomar
7 - Pudge
8 - Ozzie

Well, there you have it. I'm sure there are notable exceptions (Hate leaving Sandberg, Mattingly, etc off) here, but, that's the fun of it. So, if you love baseball and have some time, join in. Oh, and if this has been done before, my apologies.
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Nice list! The only problem is there are a lot of jerks on it.
Eddie Murray: Never met a reporter he couldn't ignore.
Robbie Alomar: Liked to spit at umpires and wear out his welcome.
Rickey: Had trouble making sense.
Ken Griffey Jr.: Immature
Clemens: No loyality. Goes where the money is. Likes to throw bats when they break.
Pedro: Likes to throw around 72 year old bench coaches.
Seriously though, you don't have to be nice to win. Good list!
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Old 12-15-2006, 03:21 PM   #3
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Ozzie Smith is actually a huge jerk too
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Steve Carlton, in his prime, was probably the best pitcher ever, and if not, definitely in the Top 5.
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What did Ozzie do? I couldn't think of anything bad that he might've done besides maybe a couple too many backflips.
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Man, it's hard to name people in general that are not jerks, let alone pro athletes. The 70's A's and 70's Yankees did not get along, at all, but won. It takes all types. A lot of these jerks have rings, as it turns out.

Nobody else is gonna make a list!?!??

Carlton was amazing, Phillyfan, agreed. I think for a 4-5 year stretch, though, for me, Perdo is the best pitcher I've ever seen...for length of career, Clemens. Wish I'd have seen Koufax.
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Pedro: Likes to throw around 72 year old bench coaches.

Greatest.Sports.Moment.Ever
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My favorite sports moment ever is the minor league hitter who either gets hit with a pitch, or just thrown at...he then gives the catcher a back kick, then runs to the mound. I don't know why, exactly, but it cracks me up every time. Dalton, you're the Cubs fan, if memory serves?
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NSW, that is a great video as well.

I am a Cubs fan ... as well as a Tigers fan, so really I just hate Chzip...
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1B-Keith Hernandez
2B-Willie Randolph
3B-Mike Schmidt
SS-Derek Jeter
CF-Johnny Damon
LF-Manny Ramirez
RF-Paul O'Neill
C-Ivan Rodriguez
SP-Greg Maddux
SP-Roger Clemens
SP-Curt Shilling
SP-David Cone
MRP-Roger McDowell
MRP-Jeff Nelson
RP-Mariano Rivera
DH-David Ortiz

Line-up
1-Damon
2-Jeter
3-Hernandez
4-Ramierez
5-Ortiz
6-Schmidt
7-O'Niell
8-Randolph
9-Rodriguez

Not an all-time team, just a good team to have.
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Yeah, glad you've seen and remember it. Do you dream of kicking Chizip? Your Tigers made my Yanks look so old and slow and lifeless, ugh.

I remember a while back the Cubs played the Yanks and I was giving you shit about it....was that 2005??? Also, when they played something in my memory tells me someone got badly injured...was it Choi, hitting his head?????
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1B-Keith Hernandez
2B-Willie Randolph
3B-Mike Schmidt
SS-Derek Jeter
CF-Johnny Damon
LF-Manny Ramirez
RF-Paul O'Neill
C-Ivan Rodriguez
SP-Greg Maddux
SP-Roger Clemens
SP-Curt Shilling
SP-David Cone
MRP-Roger McDowell
MRP-Jeff Nelson
RP-Mariano Rivera
DH-David Ortiz

Line-up
1-Damon
2-Jeter
3-Hernandez
4-Ramierez
5-Ortiz
6-Schmidt
7-O'Niell
8-Randolph
9-Rodriguez

Not an all-time team, just a good team to have.
I thought about Hernandez, best fielding 1B I've ever seen, and, I'm a huge Mattingly fan and he was no slouch with the glove. Keith would turn the clubhouse into a cocaine distribution center, though, hence my reluctance to add him. Interesting middle relievers. Hard to choose because they never seem to have long careers as middle relievers, they soon become closers or lose their effectiveness. Nelson was good for a while, though, and helped the Yanks big-time. Most Yankee fans I know, myself included, really look back at Nelson and Stanton with fondness.
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Steve Carlton, in his prime, was probably the best pitcher ever
ummmmmm no.

bob gibson anyone? sandy koufax? hello?


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and if not, definitely in the Top 5.
maybe, but arguable.
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this is all players in their prime, yes? i.e. when they were at their absolute best?

from, say, 1985 on
1. SS- Jose Reyes
2. RF- Tony Gwynn
3. 1B- Albert Pujols
4. LF- Manny Ramirez
5. CF- Ken Griffey Jr.
6. C- Mike Piazza
7. 3B- Michael Jack Schmidt
8. 2B- Roberto Alomar
9. P- DH is for pussies

Starting 5
1. Pedro Martinez
2. Randy Johnson
3. Dwight Gooden
4. Roger Clemens
5. Johan Santana

Closer - Mariano Rivera
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Yes, Headache, players in their prime, but, I'm assuming their prime lasted a while (No Dale Murphy action). Agree that Carlton is not the best ever, would argue him for Top 10.

Reyes at SS? Really? Friggin Met fans.

You happy with the Mets offseason, or, reserving judgement until Zito is signed?
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