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The Sad Punk said:
The Singing Bee. That ridiculous game show that was showing late last year, with Joey Fatone as the host. Man, that's some excellent bad TV - I hope it returns. Everything about it felt curiously 1995.
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Holy shit, ACA and The Singing Bee - MUST SEE TV!
 
On RYM, there's a thread about "what musicians do you hold a grudge against?", and this post cracked me up for so many reasons:

RYAN ADAMS.

What an insufferable prick. When I went to Lollapalooza in 2006 and my uncle, who I went with, dragged me to see his set, it was quite honestly the worst demonstration of music I've ever seen. All his songs were 10-minute jam-bandy wankathons, when the fans in the audience (including my uncle) were clearly clamoring for different material. He even covered Sonic Youth's "Expressway To Yr Skull" and managed to turn it into something immensely boring. And then, since he was clearly stoned or drunk (or both) out of his mind, for at least five minutes he took a break to complain about how he couldn't get good eggs in Chicago, and he said, and I am not lying here, "The Egg Police are coming to get me, and I'm not yolkin'!" Since then, I've read interviews with him and he seems like one of the smarmiest, most egotistical musicians out there, easily rivaling Bono in his self-mythologizing.
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I think i found a photo of Liam :hyper:

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Hey Ashley, in your time studying history, have you ever had the misfortune to come across post-colonialism theory? Specifically the Subaltern Studies group?
 
Axver said:
On RYM, there's a thread about "what musicians do you hold a grudge against?", and this post cracked me up for so many reasons:
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Excellent. I fucking despise that cunt and have for a few years. Talentless, stoned, self-obsessed hack that puts himself on too high a pedestal. Like an American version of a Gallagher brother.
 
The Sad Punk said:
Excellent. I fucking despise that cunt and have for a few years. Talentless, stoned, self-obsessed hack that puts himself on too high a pedestal. Like an American version of a Gallagher brother.
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Perhaps worse. I'm not sure even the Gallaghers would utter something like "I'm not even yolking".
 
bono_212 said:
No...I don't think so :hmm:
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Be grateful. Be very, very grateful. I am trying to write an essay about this horse manure and it IS going to turn into a rant. It will quite possibly be the least detached, most passionate essay I've ever submitted because I am so convinced that what post-colonialists write is nothing short of pure junk dressed up in often imprenetrable jargon.

Give this a try, some drivel by Dipesh Chakrabarty, who I'm ashamed to say was once a Melbourne University academic (I believe he's now permanently in Chicago). I'm sure you'll appreciate why I feel like bashing my head against a brick wall right now:

So long as one operates within the discourse of “history” produced at the institutional site of the university, it is not possible simply to walk out of the deep collusion between “history” and the modernizing narrative(s) of citizenship, bourgeois public and private, and the nation state. “History” as a knowledge system is firmly embedded in institutional practices that invoke the nation state at every step—witness the organization and politics of teaching, recruitment, promotions, and publication in history departments, politics that survive the occasional brave and heroic attempts by individual historians to liberate “history” from the meta-narrative of the nation state. One only has to ask, for instance: Why is history a compulsory part of education of the modern person in all countries today including those that did quite comfortably without it until as late as the eighteenth century? Why should children all over the world today have to come to terms with a subject called “history” when we know that this compulsion is neither natural nor ancient? It does not take much imagination to see that the reason for this lies in what European imperialism and third-world nationalisms have achieved together: the universalization of the nation state as the most desirable form of political community. Nation states have the capacity to enforce their truth games, and universities, their critical distance notwithstanding, are part of the battery of institutions complicit in this process.

Paranoid and grasping at straws much? He then proceeds to go on about how we need to "provincialise Europe" because Europe is presently a silent referent in all history that's being produced. Riiiight.

Incidentally, that quote is some of the clearest post-colonial writing I've read. Homi K. Bhabha is virtually impossible to follow. Run far, far away if his name ever comes up.
 
liamcool said:
Hmm, interesting.

NP: The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun - Dream Theater

The song before this, Ax? Light Fuse and Get Away.
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Ha, awesome.

I haven't played WDADU in ages. Honestly, I'm over Dream Theater. IAW, Awake, and FII are still enjoyable. But often when I think about them, I just feel a little repulsed and want to walk away. I suppose how a number of us feel about U2, really.
 
Axver said:
Be grateful. Be very, very grateful. I am trying to write an essay about this horse manure and it IS going to turn into a rant. It will quite possibly be the least detached, most passionate essay I've ever submitted because I am so convinced that what post-colonialists write is nothing short of pure junk dressed up in often imprenetrable jargon.

Give this a try, some drivel by Dipesh Chakrabarty, who I'm ashamed to say was once a Melbourne University academic (I believe he's now permanently in Chicago). I'm sure you'll appreciate why I feel like bashing my head against a brick wall right now:

So long as one operates within the discourse of “history” produced at the institutional site of the university, it is not possible simply to walk out of the deep collusion between “history” and the modernizing narrative(s) of citizenship, bourgeois public and private, and the nation state. “History” as a knowledge system is firmly embedded in institutional practices that invoke the nation state at every step—witness the organization and politics of teaching, recruitment, promotions, and publication in history departments, politics that survive the occasional brave and heroic attempts by individual historians to liberate “history” from the meta-narrative of the nation state. One only has to ask, for instance: Why is history a compulsory part of education of the modern person in all countries today including those that did quite comfortably without it until as late as the eighteenth century? Why should children all over the world today have to come to terms with a subject called “history” when we know that this compulsion is neither natural nor ancient? It does not take much imagination to see that the reason for this lies in what European imperialism and third-world nationalisms have achieved together: the universalization of the nation state as the most desirable form of political community. Nation states have the capacity to enforce their truth games, and universities, their critical distance notwithstanding, are part of the battery of institutions complicit in this process.

Paranoid and grasping at straws much? He then proceeds to go on about how we need to "provincialise Europe" because Europe is presently a silent referent in all history that's being produced. Riiiight.

Incidentally, that quote is some of the clearest post-colonial writing I've read. Homi K. Bhabha is virtually impossible to follow. Run far, far away if his name ever comes up.
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:no::no::no::no::no: I don't understand!!!! WHHHHYYYYY does this exist?
 
Ax, that's the dumbest shit I've read in the past ten minutes, and before I was reading something by someone that was saying how funny Ricky Gervais is.

Unreal.
 
bono_212 said:
:no::no::no::no::no: I don't understand!!!! WHHHHYYYYY does this exist?
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Pseudo-academics with an axe to grind and a desire to show off how big their intellectual dick is through using jargon nobody understands nor is impressed by? God, they irritate me. They claim to be rescuing and giving voice to the "subaltern" classes, the subjugated and overlooked people and their histories from imperialism, yet their writing is so dense that you need very specialised knowledge to actually follow it.

I actually think this sort of bullshit is even worse for the discipline of history than utter non-historical, fictional, fallacious crap like that 1421 book that claims China discovered EVERYWHERE first. At least it's pretty easily recognisable as junk history that shouldn't be taken seriously. It certainly holds no sway within academic history and you can just laugh at it and move on. But this post-colonial crap is already inside the discipline, chipping away. Fucking fuck off.

God. Working on this essay makes me furious. Can you tell!
 
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