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Old 11-13-2006, 01:47 PM   #1
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Babel

Anyone else see this movie?

I thought it was very good. Yes, it was too long (about 2 hours and 20 minutes), and yes there are some disturbing scenes, but I thought it had a lot to say about different cultures & different mediums for communication.

I always find it impressive when someone can write a story about 4 different mini stories and make them intertwine at the end (think Crash).

This movie has 4 different stories taking place in San Diego, Tijuana, Tokyo, and Moroco. Pretty wild....
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I REALLY want to see this, and I'm not sure why....
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I want to see this as well - it looks interesting.
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I saw it over the weekend, enjoyed it. It's long and requires attention, but I thought it was very well done and thought provoking-especially the parts related to immigration and terrorism.

Brad Pitt's performance was good, and Cate Blanchett is always great. There is one moment between them that involves something that is the antithesis of romance, but it is so romantic and intimate and touching. They should work together again.
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I'm reluctant to see this one, just because, if it's anywhere near Crash, I'm gonna end up regretting spending money on it. That movie tried so damn hard for a message that it ended up sounding border-line racist.
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ahhhh finally someone who shares the same opinion about Crash as I do! Every time I say the same line people are ready to shoot me like its some sacred thing.

However..
I'm interested in Babel cause I'm a huge fan of the director's work: Amores Perros & 21 grams
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I'm reluctant to see this one, just because, if it's anywhere near Crash, I'm gonna end up regretting spending money on it. That movie tried so damn hard for a message that it ended up sounding border-line racist.
I agree on Crash, when I first tried to watch it I thought it was too over the top.

Then I finally watched it and allowed myself to enjoy it.

I think Babel is more gripping. I watched it yesterday.

I do want to add that the deaf girl's white cat is beautiful.
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Brad Pitt's performance was good, and Cate Blanchett is always great. There is one moment between them that involves something that is the antithesis of romance, but it is so romantic and intimate and touching. They should work together again.
I'm pretty sure I know which scene you're referring to and I agree.

I saw it last night and found it gripping. I didn't even notice how long it was because I was completely riveted throughout, but then it felt like there was a rush at the end to pull it all together in a nice, neat Hollywood package. That's my main criticism, but still, the performances were incredible and I'm still thinking about the movie. I found the Japanese story to be particularly touching because it was so unusual.
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I'm reluctant to see this one, just because, if it's anywhere near Crash, I'm gonna end up regretting spending money on it. That movie tried so damn hard for a message that it ended up sounding border-line racist.
You're right!!!
Except the scene (s) involving the little girl i.e. when we first meet her hiding under her bed and when we think she's been shot are the two best scenes of ANY film in years!!!

Come to think of it the scene where Matt Dillon feels up the guys wife is pretty creepy - so is the scene where she's trapped in the car and Dillon happens to be the cop on the scene. Actually, if Crash hadn't tried to go so over the top it could of been brilliant - instead it was pretty damn good (in most parts) and considering the garbage they peddle for "films" these days (at least in Hollywood) that's a good thing.
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"Crash" was about racism. That's a lot different than being racist.
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^ That's exactly my point, it was supposed to be about racism but gathering every single stereotype you can think of (and then some) and somehow relating them together to fit a story-line, is far from a decent analysis of racism.
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^ That's exactly my point, it was supposed to be about racism but gathering every single stereotype you can think of (and then some) and somehow relating them together to fit a story-line, is far from a decent analysis of racism.
Ok, I get what you're saying. I misread your earlier post. I have mixed feelings about Crash myself but overall liked it.

I think Babel is a flawed film, and the Tokyo story's connection to the other stories is a stretch though so moving I didn't care, and there are certainly many things one can criticize about it. But visually it's stunning, the acting is wonderful, it's both touching and disturbing, and I think worth seeing.
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while Babel wasn't horrible..persay.. it didn't exactly win me over. Great directing, cinematography and acting...but the story didn't hold together. It didn't help that Inarritu gave in to the Hollywood ending, and the whole nanny/kids story was so farfetched, I get it, they're trying to prove a point of what immigrants go through but it did feel very Crash at that moment.. it doesn't help that the only lady without a 'happy ending' was the Mexican maid...we get it, the director is Mexican, sympathy points won.

Amores Perros & 21 Grams are up on my list of favorite movies, they're both so fantastic and manage to be realistic and show raw human emotion at tis best while not coming off as forced or preachy.

I give Babel a 6.7
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Babel makes me want to visit Tokyo (it was Tokyo wasn't it?).
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