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Old 09-02-2002, 10:44 PM   #31
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Avril Lavigne Takes Off Her Clothes For Rock Hall Of Fame
08.19.2002

"It's the coolest thing when chick fans come up to me and tell me that I've been so inspiring to them." Avril Lavigne


While many have left their hearts in San Francisco, Avril Lavigne will leave her clothes in Cleveland.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum intends to display the outfit the spunky 17-year-old singer/guitarist wore in her MTV Video Music Awards-nominated "Complicated" clip, according to a Hall spokesperson. (Click for the complete list of 2002 VMA Nominees.) While flattered at the honor, Lavigne is just as surprised as anyone that her baggy cargo shorts, fitted white tank top and signature necktie will hang in the same building that houses such illustrious memorabilia as John Lennon's 1965 Rickenbacker 12-string and Hank Williams' white wool cowboy hat.

"I think that's ridiculous, because I've had one single out and I'm like this new kid in this music scene," she stammered with disbelief. "OK, I think it's funny, but at the same time, I'm like, 'Hell yeah, I'll give you my clothes!' "

Actually, Lavigne can rest assured that her outfit won't hang next to those items as a permanent exhibit. Rather, it will be shown in a section called On the Charts, along with items from more contemporary artists like Destiny's Child, Sum 41 and No Doubt.

This latest accolade is just the tip of the iceberg for Lavigne, whose debut album Let Go has sold over a million copies, according to SoundScan, since its release in early June. Peppering her career's steep upward trajectory have been sold-out concerts, a European promotional tour, cover stories and features in national magazines, and the latest feathers in her cap, an invitation to the 2002 Video Music Awards, where's she's set to present an award as well as vie for a Moonman in the Best New Artist in a Video category.

While it may seem it's all been a breeze for Lavigne, a whirlwind career can take its toll on anyone, especially someone bursting with as much energy as she.

"Lots of late nights," she lamented. "Flights get in late, and by the time you check into your hotel room, unpack your toothbrush, brush your teeth, go to bed ... and then you have to get up early in the morning which is what it's been like for me lately my body's just not used to it and it's getting worn down. So my throat is getting kind of hoarse and raspy. I have a couple of red patches in there now, so I'm on some antibiotics to fix that up. I just have to try to stop talking and screaming and jumping around when I don't really need to."

Despite the irritations, Lavigne can tolerate the sore throats and tired eyes when she gets a chance to meet her fans, whose admiration makes it all worthwhile.

"It's the coolest thing when chick fans come up to me and tell me that I've been so inspiring to them," she said, beaming. "When fans come up to me and say that kind of stuff, it just puts a smile on my face that's very irreplaceable."

It's safe to say a similar grin will be pasted across her face come August 29 just the fact that she's going is an honor, she said. And if she winds up besting Ashanti ("Foolish"), John Mayer ("No Such Thing"), B2K ("Uh Huh") and Puddle of Mudd ("Blurry") for that precious statuette, her exuberance may not be containable. Though to the selectively well-mannered Lavigne, who must've been raised right in the small Canadian town of Napanee, Ontario, winning isn't everything.

"When [my manager] told me, I was like, 'Omigod, I've been nominated!' Now for the rest of my life, I can say that I've been nominated for a VMA. This might be the only time this ever happens, so I'm just going to have fun with it. The winning part is not something that I'm expecting ... I'm just totally happy and a goal of mine has just been achieved."


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Old 09-02-2002, 11:10 PM   #32
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In reference to comment made about how clothing isn't the most important element of punk music: This is completely wrong. Punk was and still is about style over substance. The Ramones, Sex Pistols, Nirvana, Green Day, and the like never would have made it had it not been for their image, their clothing, their personas.

Avril doesn't sound like punk, but claiming that punk is solely about the music is ludicrous.
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I liked her when I first heard Complicated but then this whole "anti-Britney" thing started sounding a little contrived. Her I'm a tough skater chick image is wearing a little thin and I don't think she's got enough talent to sustain a long career. I think she's a passing fad. It also doesn't help that she's been rude and bitchy in every interview I've seen her do.
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In reference to comment made about how clothing isn't the most important element of punk music: This is completely wrong. Punk was and still is about style over substance. The Ramones, Sex Pistols, Nirvana, Green Day, and the like never would have made it had it not been for their image, their clothing, their personas.

Avril doesn't sound like punk, but claiming that punk is solely about the music is ludicrous.
Actually, it's attitude over substance...if it were style, that would mean that anybody who put on a leather jacket, ripped pair of jeans, flannel, etc. would be punk. Punk (in the real sense) is about ideals, attitudes and views on the world. Yes, it is also expressed in their style, but this is true of a lot of other music as well. The image became popular after the music did.
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"It's the coolest thing when chick fans come up to me and tell me that I've been so inspiring to them," she said, beaming. "When fans come up to me and say that kind of stuff, it just puts a smile on my face that's very irreplaceable."
- Huhhuh. She said "chick"
- Hehe, cool. That chick is irreplacebale.
- Yeah. huhhuh. Cool
- Shutup Beavis! You're acting like a wussie!
- Oh. Hehe. Chick.



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eh, she's a passing fad...noone will remember her in two years.
Here today...nowhere tomorrow...anyone remember Fiona Apple?

Avril really endeared herself to me with her "Alright" scream at the MTV podium...see ya honey.
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Here today...nowhere tomorrow...anyone remember Fiona Apple?
hey...i like fiona apple.

her infamous acceptance speech scared the shit out of me though.
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I miss Fiona
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Here today...nowhere tomorrow...anyone remember Fiona Apple?

Ok, there is NO comparision between Avril Lavigne and Fiona Apple. If Avril ever wrote a song as good as Criminal, Shadowboxer, or basically anything off Fiona's second album, or sang with as much soul as Fiona does, I'd be very surprised indeed. Also, I think Fiona's disappearance from the mainstream had a bit more to do with the MTV-bashing acceptance speech Khanada mentioned than with the quality of her music.

That said, I too think Miss Lavigne will have a short-lived stay at the top.
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Me too...
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basically anything off Fiona's second album
i love fiona's second album
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I'm not bashing Fiona nor comparing her music to that of Avril LANecktie. Just using her as an example of how quickly an artist can go from being in to being forgotten. Fiona was all the rage for a while, cause she was different from pop princesses, wrote her own material etc., etc....sound familiar?
Enjoy your 15 minutes Avril.
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i love fiona's second album
Meee toooo!!!

And I hear ya Hewson. Thanks for clarifying your point. And LMFAO at Avril Lanecktie.
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Actually, it's attitude over substance...if it were style, that would mean that anybody who put on a leather jacket, ripped pair of jeans, flannel, etc. would be punk. Punk (in the real sense) is about ideals, attitudes and views on the world. Yes, it is also expressed in their style, but this is true of a lot of other music as well. The image became popular after the music did.
You're right. I wasn't clear with what I said. By style I was including the attitude, but that's my mistake. You have to admit that the style of any band determines how they are perceived. It doesn't matter if you are talent or not, being marketable is essential. And quite honestly, I don't the most famous punk bands had anymore talent than you could teach someone in a couple of weeks.
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You're right. I wasn't clear with what I said. By style I was including the attitude, but that's my mistake. You have to admit that the style of any band determines how they are perceived. It doesn't matter if you are talent or not, being marketable is essential. And quite honestly, I don't the most famous punk bands had anymore talent than you could teach someone in a couple of weeks.
It's cool...I agree, marketing plays a huge role in music today, and in the past as well...I think there are certain bands that have both (Nirvana instantly coming to mind), that not only brought style but had the music to back it up. Still, early punk music was very, um...basic, as far as musical talent is concerned, and as you brought out most of their success was based on how they presented themselves and their material, rather than the actual songs themselves.
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