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Old 03-13-2006, 07:45 PM   #61
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i never said you weren't interested in the quality of cricket, but are you telling me you enjoyed losing to SA like that?
there you go! winning and losing again. it isn't always about that. seriously. a great cricket game is as exciting as watching a close race or an exciting footy match. it's the sport, not winning or losing.

i dont know how else to explain it. it seems this belief exists only over here, NOT that all australians are brilliant good sports about losing (no one likes it) but we are interested more in how either team get there. and alternatively some of us are competitive and of course couldn't care less about the competition and just want to win. now you can call this stereotyping, but it's become more noticable in this forum for example, how everyone loves to jump on our backs and have a go when we lose. the gloaters come out in force. it doesn't seem entirely friendly to me. it seems as though there's this division in what is important. not saying that the rest of the world doesn't care about the quality or how the game is won, either. it's just i dont see australians on the whole going on and on when we lose by bashing the other team. some do it, yes, but not primarily. i dont see us gloating and down playing everyone else when we win, but some do and the media might.

this isn't specifically addressing anyone on here either.
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there you go! winning and losing again. it isn't always about that. seriously. a great cricket game is as exciting as watching a close race or an exciting footy match. it's the sport, not winning or losing.
The thing is with this Australian Cricket Team that is exactly what it is about. Their entire attidude is that of win at all costs, which is sweet, until they start bending, manipulating and then flagrantly breaking rules, laws and the spirit of the game - which happens every game or too. Don't get me wrong, victories against Australia are always sweet due to natural rivalary, but victories against this Australia, compared to say the 1990-1 Australia are much sweeter - because of how they play.

I think saying, that the quality of cricket played is what most Australian fans/players care about is pretty niaive given the current climate. But they seem to appreciate a lot better with other sports.
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you'll find australians are interested in the quality of the cricket, not solely winning. unlike some it seems.
Oh, really? My flatmate happens to be an Australian and he certainly didn't want to hear a word about this particular game. And other Australians have been pretty quiet about it too.

It seems they're definitely concerned with winning.
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there you go! winning and losing again. it isn't always about that. seriously. a great cricket game is as exciting as watching a close race or an exciting footy match. it's the sport, not winning or losing.

i appreciate good exciting sport no matter who wins, i know it's not always about winning or losing. but if my team (in any sport) loses, even if the quality of the game is very high i'm still upset that my team lost. i can appreciate the thrill of the game but still not enjoy the fact we lost.


and i was in no way gloating that australia lost or saying you're all bad sports. far from it, in the ashes thread on here last summer most of the aussies were very good sports
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It seems they're definitely concerned with winning.
Nah...

A very, very oldie but a very, very goodie...

Greg: Trevor, can I encourage you to bowl this final ball to the best of your abilities, in the interests of producing the best game of cricket you can.

Trevor: I concur, Gregory, the result of this game is unimportant.

Rod: Greg, Trevor, have you considered the possibility of circumventing the laws of the game to win?

Greg: Save it Rod. The spirit of the game is more important than the winning of the game.

*Trevor bowls*

Crowd cheers wildly in the name of cricket.

Brian: What a great game! This ball will live on for years in the minds of cricket lovers, and be a living monument to the game. Allow me to throw my bat in a sign gratitude to the game of cricket.
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I'm quite tired of you two wind-up merchants, you know. The ironic thing is that the poor sportsmanship you so happily accuse Australia of is extremely apparent within yourselves.
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I'm quite tired of you two wind-up merchants, you know.
I can't speak for Axver, but I'm not winding.

Just because I have an opinion opposite to others doesn't mean I'm wining. I'm not disolving into random personal attacks, and actually want discussion. I'm winding no more than what Angela's post was (and it wasn't even close to it, as she made a perfectly good argument, perfectly well, I just disagree on some points, namely those I quoted) It's not as if I just jumped here as soon as Australia lost... or else we would've been here when SA were 2-0 up and coasting in the 3rd.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Australia in South Africa

http://s29. .com/d.aspx?id=0UKJ3951PV3681NDJLLQ7CPWPW

Part one of three, Australian innings up to Ponting going on 99. Not DVD quality by any means, and it's a bit choppy here and there, but hell, it's something to tide you over until you get all the 6 gigs you want.
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Pt 2: Ponting's 100 to Graeme Smith's dismissal. Pt 3 coming up...
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Pt 3: big six until end of match.
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I can't speak for Axver, but I'm not winding.
Remarkably, I can speak for Axver.

I don't see where I've done any winding. I declared that this must be one of the greatest games ever, and when someone said Australians care about the quality of the game rather than merely winning, I provided examples of Australians who are acting like winning's more important than the quality.

If I were winding, I would've said something like "it would suck to be Australian right now" or asked where CrashedCarDriver is. Either I'm losing my memory and going blind, or I didn't do that. If the answer is the latter, you can stop with the baseless allegations of anti-Australian winding now, thanks.
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If we want to be very precise, I was responding to comments initially made by the rockin edge, and then clarified I think twice, that not everyone is like this of course. So I dont understand where you made the one line a 'fits all' statement. It is perfectly fair to say Australians care about whatever. There's plenty who do. Though given that, it was also said twice like I said, that some of course wont. Your flatmate is one...Which is as relevant as me naming 24 people I know who care about the game play than the result. But anyway. It doesn't matter anymore.



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Re: Re: Re: Re: Australia in South Africa

You know what, fuck this. I can dredge up numerous examples of Axver and to a lesser extent timothius being wind up merchants but what will be the point? Just enjoy the bloody cricket. Like Andrew Hall's amazing catch to dismiss Adam Gilchrist.
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