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Old 09-09-2004, 08:49 AM   #1
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Are you ready for some football? The official 2004-05 NFL Thread.

Bum bum bum bum... da dum da dum... (that's supposed to be the MNF musical intro incase you were donering)


Kickoff is tonight... 9:10EST... Colts @ Pats in a rematch of the AFC Championship game...


Prediction Time...

List your winners in the following categories...

Division Winners
AFC

East:
North:
South:
West:
Wild cards (x2):

NFC
East:
North:
South:
West:
Wild cards (x2):

AFC Champ:
NFC Champ:
Super Bowl Champ:

Coach of the Year:
Offensive MVP:
Defensive MVP:
Offensive rookie of the year:
Defensive rookie of the year:
Breakthrough Season:
Most Overrated Player:

Favorite Team:


Let's get it on!
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Re: Are you ready for some football? The official 2004-05 NFL Thread.

Division Winners
AFC

East: New Engalnd Patriots
North: Baltimore Ravens
South: Indianapolis Colts
West: Denver Broncos
Wild cards (x2): Kansas City Chiefs, New York Jets

NFC
East: Philadelphia Eagles
North: Green Bay Packers (by accident... this division blows)
South: Carolina Panthers
West: Seattle Seahawks
Wild cards (x2): St. Louis Rams, New Orleans Saints

AFC Champ: Baltimore Ravens
NFC Champ: Carolina Panthers
Super Bowl Champ: Baltimore Ravens

Coach of the Year: Brian Billick, Baltimore Ravens
Offensive MVP: Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts
Defensive MVP: Ray Lewis, Baltimore Ravens
Offensive rookie of the year: Roy Williams, Detroit Lions
Defensive rookie of the year: Jonathan Vilma, New York Jets
Breakthrough Season: Joey Harrington, Detroit Lions
Most Overrated Player: Michael Vick, Atlanta Falcons

Favorite Team: New York Giants
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Re: Re: Are you ready for some football? The official 2004-05 NFL Thread.

Division Winners
AFC

East: New Engalnd Patriots
North: Baltimore Ravens
South: Tennesee Titans
West: Kansas City Cheifs
Wild cards (x2): Indianapolis Colts, Cinncinnati Bengals

NFC
East: Philadelphia Eagles
North: Green Bay Packers
South: Atlanta Falcons
West: Seattle Seahawks
Wild cards (x2):Washington Redskins, Carolina Panthers

AFC Champ: New England Patriots
NFC Champ: Washington Redskins
Super Bowl Champ: New England Dynasty

Coach of the Year: Jim Mora, Jr Atlanta
Offensive MVP: Michael Vick, Atlanta
Defensive MVP: Tedy Bruschi, New England
Offensive rookie of the year: Lee Suggs, Cleveland
Defensive rookie of the year: Vince Wilfork, New England
Breakthrough Season: Willis McGahee, Buffalo
Most Overrated Player: Tie: Peyton and Eli Manning

Favorite Team: Dynasty
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Division Winners
AFC
East: Patriots
North: Ravens
South: Colts
West: Chiefs
Wild cards (x2): Bills, Broncos

NFC
East: Redskins
North: Vikings
South: Saints
West: Rams
Wild cards (x2): Seahawks, Panthers

AFC Champ: Patriots
NFC Champ: Vikings
Super Bowl Champ: Patriots

Coach of the Year: Mike Tice
Offensive MVP: Tom Brady
Defensive MVP: Jevon Kearse
Offensive rookie of the year: Julius Jones
Defensive rookie of the year: Sean Taylor
Breakthrough Season: Josh McCown, Arizona
Most Overrated Player: Micheal Vick and both Mannings

Favorite Team: Brady bunch
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J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!

(Well, somebody had to say it!)
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nah... no one really had to say it.
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I don't know from Division this and Wild Card that, but I do know one thing: THE CATS ARE FOR REAL!!! GO PANTHERS!!!!
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lenny kravitz's guitar playing is so good that he can even play with no hands... amazing i tell ya'... simply amazing... perhaps the third leg is playing...
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stupid idiot kicker


hasn't everyone learned since the Giants 49ers fiasco a few years back to just kick the field goal on third down, just in case you screw up? with no timeouts, dungy's gotta sent in the kicker on third... tie the game go to overtime. new england's "vaunted" defense hasn't stopped ya all game... if not for turnovers, the colts woulda won in a blowout... so just take the tie and go for OT. but nooooo... go for the TD, get sacked, make the stupid idiot kicker have to kick a 49 yarder in the leftovers of a hurricane. smart coaching let me tell ya...

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willie mcginist coming up HUGE again against these bastards

and i agree, too many things could have gone wrong with the 4th down kick besides the fact he flat out missed... should the pats have NOT called a time out the colts would have been rushing onto the field, might not have set up right, etc...

just take the sure thing and dont force it.
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3 turnovers in the red zone and a botched end to the game... tony dungy at his best, yet again.

looks like the colts are in for another 12-4 season before being bounced in the AFC Title Game.


as for the pats... yes, mcginist came up huge with that sack on manning with time running out. but besides that, the colts did whatever they wanted. if they could just hold on to the damn ball the last play wouldn't have mattered 'cause they would have been up by at least a touchdown. i wouldn't go crazy about the pats D just yet, 'cause the colts offense is rediculous (despite the feelings of most in here that peyton is over-rated)... but two years ago they missed the playoffs 'cause they couldn't stop the run... just a point of concern...
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stupid idiot kicker
Maybe he was "all liquored up"

As for the game and your analysis...the Pats need to work on the run D thats for sure, but to say the Colts would have blown them out without turnovers is preposterous. First off, TO's are part of the game, Bruschi baited Peyton's place into that throw on the first series and Ty Warren's pressure up the middle forced him to throw off tyhe back foot.
The Colts' D was pretty awful as usual, had Vandy made the kick, the Pats would have won in OT if they got the ball first anyway. As for dumb coaching, the genius duo of Belichik and Weis almost had some serious 'splaining to do themselves. 2nd and 5, 2:08 to go, Colts just burned their last timeout, Corey Dillon just ripped off a 5 yd gain, so drop back and look deep, Brady gets stripped, thankfully Dillon falls on the fumble. Now you're forced to throw on 3rd down, and punt back with 1:45 on clock. If you run on 2nd and 3rd down, the worst thing is you don't make the 1st down, punt (from 10 yds better field position) the ball back with about 1:10 on the clock. If Dillon gets 5 yds on 2 carries( he averaged 5.4ypc), the game is over.
Coupled with a boneheaded attempt to fair catch a punt from 10 yards away from the ball by Deion Branch , the Pats gave the Colts plenty of opprtunity to steal a game, but as usual, the combo of Dungy and Manning just can't seal the deal in big games.
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Maybe he was "all liquored up"

As for the game and your analysis...the Pats need to work on the run D thats for sure, but to say the Colts would have blown them out without turnovers is preposterous. First off, TO's are part of the game, Bruschi baited Peyton's place into that throw on the first series and Ty Warren's pressure up the middle forced him to throw off tyhe back foot.
we'll have to agree to disagree here... 3 times in the red zone... even if i give ya the bruschi INT, and even if i give ya that it wouldn't have been a blowout... if edge james holds on to the ball, the colts win.

we knew the colts D stunk... we didn't know that the pats D would stink too. but alas, it's only week 1.

overall... the pats were not very impressive, while the colts were the same old colts... able to go up and down the field on anyone, but unable to get the job done when it counts the most.
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Ahh hell, I'll even put the divisions in standing order, cause I'm so damn cocky.

Division Winners
AFC
East: New England/Miami/New York/Buffalo
North: Baltimore/Pittsburgh/Cleveland/Cincinnati
South: Indianapolis/Tennessee/Jacksonville/Houston
West: Kansas City/San Diego/Oakland/Denver
Wild cards (x2): Pittsburgh/Miami

NFC
East: Philadelphia/Washington/New York/Dallas
North: Green Bay/Minnesota/Detroit/Chicago
South: Carolina/Tampa Bay/New Orleans/Atlanta
West: St. Louis/Seattle/San Francisco/Arizona
Wild cards (x2): Washington/Tampa Bay

AFC Champ: Indianapolis
NFC Champ: Philadelphia
Super Bowl Champ: Indianapolis

Coach of the Year: Joe Gibbs
Offensive MVP: Peyton Manning
Defensive MVP: Jevon Kearse
Offensive rookie of the year: Julius Jones
Defensive rookie of the year: Sean Taylor
Breakthrough Season: I will hope Josh McCown from Arizona, cause he's on my fantasy football team
Most Overrated Player: Eli Manning

Favorite Team: Philadelphia
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