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Old 06-07-2003, 01:39 PM   #16
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I'm not much of a cook except salads, pasta and rice stuff but here I go anyway...

Someone mentioned that soy+wheat=whole protein and I remember reading somewhere that beans and corn are kind of the same deal. I eat a lot of corn bread, oatmeal, tomato-based dishes...also, lentils are great. You can buy them dried and don't have to soak them overnight like beans...I like different greens, too. When I lived at home with my parents I used to plant turnips for the greens, kale, and spinach. If you can get to a co-op or farmer's market these are usually way more cheap and fresh than at regular stores. I eat a variety of fruit, much of it dried, and take a multiple vitamin with Iron. If you're looking for good veggie recipes you should check out some of the cookbooks by Mollie Katzen (I have the moosewood cookbook I think it's called?) They're kind of expensive but you can find them at used bookstores and stuff. *sigh* reading this thread made me all hungry. *runs off to eat*
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MMm....I'm not a vegetarian, although my dad is. However, I don't eat a LOT of red meat...really only once a month or so, although I do eat chicken and fish (and I have to avoid milk because of lactose intolerance).

The thing is, as a vegetarian, you're missing out on many important vitamins and minerals mainly contained in meat (B12, B6, B5, B2 - well, all the 'b' vitamins). You have to be sure that you're still satisfying your nutritional requirements (sorry to lecture).

Why not go down to your local library/bookstore/internet and look take out a vegtarian cookbook? I know they have some wonderful things in there that you can make/are easy so that you don't feel like you're eating veggies and carbs all day long.
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MMm....I'm not a vegetarian, although my dad is. However, I don't eat a LOT of red meat...really only once a month or so, although I do eat chicken and fish (and I have to avoid milk because of lactose intolerance).

The thing is, as a vegetarian, you're missing out on many important vitamins and minerals mainly contained in meat (B12, B6, B5, B2 - well, all the 'b' vitamins). You have to be sure that you're still satisfying your nutritional requirements (sorry to lecture).

Why not go down to your local library/bookstore/internet and look take out a vegtarian cookbook? I know they have some wonderful things in there that you can make/are easy so that you don't feel like you're eating veggies and carbs all day long.
My parents were very concerned when I stopped eating meat so they took me to the Dr. for blood tests and everything came back ok that I was getting the vitamins I needed. I had some blood work done about a year ago too and I'm fine in that department.

I actually have several vegetarian cookbooks but I just wanted to know what everyone else eats because I'm bored with the stuff I make.
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im a vegetarian too

i eat alot of pasta and salads, also veggie burgers and stuff, spicy beanburgers etc..

i also eat fish aswell tho.

omelettes are also good, and baked potatoes yummy.
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Anyway, my nutritionist says this is typical for someone who's been on a long-term vegetarian diet and so I'm back on fish, fish oil capsules, and a ton of other stuff. I have to get B12 injections now!!! I am now convinced that a strict vegetarian diet is not a healthy one, but most people eat too much meat. Balance is everything. If I could get chicken or turkey down my throat, I'd eat it but it's been too long and the two times I've tried to eat it in the last 2 years I've spit it out.

I just started taking fish oil capsules as well - After I finish the bottle I have, I think I will change to the liquid version. There are a higher concentration of both EPA and DHA in the liquid format. EPA is the fatty acid that among other things has anti-inflammatory properties. Anyway if you want to try and use fish oil to treat a joint issue you may look into a higher concentration via the liquid format. Look into the concentrations of these two acids on the labels.

Also have you thought about trying Glucosamine Chondroitin to help with the joint issues? I have not read up much on this yet - but it is supposed to be beneficial (I think you have to take it for about a month or so to recognize any benefits).

A vegetarian diet can / should work as long as you obtain from food the eight essential amino acids that the body cannot produce on its own. Most plant proteins are incomplete (meaning they do not have all eight of these amino acids), hence why many vegetarians eat soy or beans and multiple types of plants, so they can obtain these proteins.

Anyway I still eat meat (mainly chicken and turkey) but a lot less than I use to. I have been moving to a more vegetarian diet over the last couple of months. Really just a healthy diet is the way I look at it. I have more or less given up all junk food and packaged food that does nothing for you.
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I'm fascinated by the food vegetarians eat. I've never been one, but have never been a fan of red meat. I'd rarely eat it and after getting food poisoning after eating a steak at a restaurant a few weeks ago, I doubt I can ever eat it again. I'm not sure if ti was the steak that caused it but psychologically I can never look at red meat and think 'yum'.
I have a stock standard combination diet of the Diabetic and Coeliac diet. That in itself is fairly limiting. What I mainly eat consists of fruit and vegetables, and whatever is cooked is either steamed or grilled to cut out fat. Fish is very good for you in many ways and understandably you cant necessarily chow down no a nice smoked cod or anything, but you say your vitamin levels are doing well so you prolly dont have to worry.
I discovered the joys of stir frys a few years ago and since buying a good wok have not looked back. I cant ever recall a time ever stuffing up what I put in it. There's a huge range of veges available, have you looked into more exotic or less tried ones yet? I love experimenting with different types of veges. Although I am able to throw in some chicken breast or something, I know with most sauces a lack of meat would hardly be noticed. With a bed of either rice, noodles, pasta, potatoes or even some greens like snow peas or those odd looking yellow beans, you can really build on creating the most amazing dishes. Also, if you're anything like me, whatever you do cook will never be the same again next time you cook it. I dont use recipes and have found it doesn't matter. Check out your Asian section of the supermarket, or go to a genuine Asian store and try different sauce bases. Invest in a rice steamer and steam up about 4-5 cups at once to use throughout the week to save on cooking time and experiment with that maybe. I know veges can be boring, but sauces can make a huge difference!
Tonight's dinner was:
Black bean sauce
Yellow beans
Snow peas
Red capsicum
Broccoli
Carrot
+ chicken

Take out the chicken and add/remove whatever veges take your fancy, and that pretty much makes up my staple diet Add things like ramen noodles, rice or a larger variety of greens and you really cant go wrong!
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Everyone makes good points about getting all of the vitamins, amino acids, and other good things that our bodies need. Last year I was having nasty recurrent sinus infections, so my doctor ran some blood work to make sure that my vegetarian diet wasn't causing me my problems. It turns out I was not deficient in anything--I just have crappy sinuses! Anyway, I'm glad that people seem to be mindful of getting all the necessary nutrients.

And whoever said Indian food is the way to go, I couldn't agree more! I've got a few Indian cookbooks, and the recipes in them are exciting and wonderful. Plus, they freak my family out, which is a good thing.

It's cool that there are quite a few vegetarians here. Last night at Chili's I had their veggie quesadillas (spinach, mushrooms, and artichoke hearts). I eat much more interesting things now that I don't have meat in my diet.
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May I ask, how does one bake a vegan cake? Dyou just take out the egg, or replace it with something else??

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May I ask, how does one bake a vegan cake? Dyou just take out the egg, or replace it with something else??

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There's different products, but my family uses a powder called Egg Replacer. In some recipes I think you can also use peanut butter as a substitute.
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I make a mean sourdough chocolate vegan cake!

I'm a vegetarian (for 3 years this week), and hardly ever eat dairy or eggs. I've never felt better in my life. I eat a lot of pasta, soy, rice, potatoes, and sandwiches, but I'm a runner so I really *need* the carbs. I have a couple of great cookbooks that I dive into when I have the time, money, and inclination, but mostly just eat the same old same old. (ah, the life of a grad student...!) so I understand the boredom that comes with eating peanut butter all the time.
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no, but my boyfriend is, does that count?
we had burritos last night... uh... he eats a lot of PBJs and spaghetti...
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I just started taking fish oil capsules as well - After I finish the bottle I have, I think I will change to the liquid version. There are a higher concentration of both EPA and DHA in the liquid format. EPA is the fatty acid that among other things has anti-inflammatory properties. Anyway if you want to try and use fish oil to treat a joint issue you may look into a higher concentration via the liquid format. Look into the concentrations of these two acids on the labels.

Also have you thought about trying Glucosamine Chondroitin to help with the joint issues? I have not read up much on this yet - but it is supposed to be beneficial (I think you have to take it for about a month or so to recognize any benefits).

A vegetarian diet can / should work as long as you obtain from food the eight essential amino acids that the body cannot produce on its own. Most plant proteins are incomplete (meaning they do not have all eight of these amino acids), hence why many vegetarians eat soy or beans and multiple types of plants, so they can obtain these proteins.

Anyway I still eat meat (mainly chicken and turkey) but a lot less than I use to. I have been moving to a more vegetarian diet over the last couple of months. Really just a healthy diet is the way I look at it. I have more or less given up all junk food and packaged food that does nothing for you.
Thanks, DiGi. My deficiencies are rather complicated but I am working with an incredible nutritionist who also happens to be one of my best friends. I've had bloodwork done several times over the past 15 years that I was on a vegetarian diet and it wasn't until I entered my 40's that anything of concern showed up. It was particularly surprising because I've always been such a health geek and way more conscientious about nutrients than just about anyone I know! And yet, here I am with all these problems--all of it absolutely reversable but requiring a lot of time, energy and money. The fish oil capsules supplement the flaxseed oil I've been taking for years, which wasn't working because I lack the enzyme to process flaxseed oil. Even though the liquid is better, I just can't bear it! So I'll see how the capsules work out for now.

The joint problems I'm having are directly related (according to the nutritionist and osteopath) to protein deficiencies, despite the massive amounts of tofu, beans/rice and protein drinks that I have consumed over the years, which apparently my body did not process as protein. Or something like that.

The thing is, it doesn't really matter so much how many vitamins and minerals you take--it's all about whether or not your body is absorbing them, and everything works together. You need this to process that and so on. God, it's so complicated and I really don't have a head for this stuff.

I really recommend that vegetarians get a vegetable juicer and use it everyday and also take ENZYMES.

Amino acid supplements have recently changed my life, too. A lifetime of insomnia has been cured with amino acids.
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All good information to know, joyful. Thanks for sharing!
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