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Old 04-05-2005, 08:37 AM   #1
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Any Genesis fans?

Hello. This is a topic to discuss Genesis, throughout their entire career.

Many people bitch that they "sucked" in the 80's, but just take a look at some of these awesome songs. Turn It On Again. Abacab. Mama. That's All. Home By the Sea Parts One AND Two. Land of Confusion. Tonight Tonight Tonight. I Can't Dance. Jesus He Knows Me. Domino. Throwing It All Away. Keep It Dark. Need I go on?

They were great in the 70's, too, just a whole lot different.

Any other U2 fans out there that appreciate Genesis and you want to talk about the band? Please do so!

That's all...
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Old 04-05-2005, 10:20 AM   #2
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hey


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i dig gabriel work
4-man unit was also pretty good
3-man unit was fantastic , although they went more into pop direction and made one bad record ( shapes , that is , one side great , the other is awful )
favourites : Duke's Travels , Domino , Romeo and Juliet

i heard , they will release live concerts on cd's , pretty soon
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Sweet WinnieThePoo, I didn't even know about the live CD's!
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Re: Any Genesis fans?

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Many people bitch that they "sucked" in the 80's, but just take a look at some of these awesome songs. Turn It On Again. Abacab. Mama. That's All. Home By the Sea Parts One AND Two. Land of Confusion. Tonight Tonight Tonight. I Can't Dance. Jesus He Knows Me. Domino. Throwing It All Away. Keep It Dark. Need I go on?
I like many of the songs on your list but I didn't care for the I Can't Dance album at all. They were pretty good in the early 80's but I wouldn't rate much of their more recent stuff personally.
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Sweet WinnieThePoo, I didn't even know about the live CD's!
well , go to


official genesis web site
thier official site is not that bad , forums are good , check them

although their record company is very slow with releases
video hits for U.S. , will be released only in late fall
Genesis recorded almost every gig
i heard that Duke Sides live ( live from Lyceum theatre ) will be released , they 've just
finished the mixing etc
the whole show , with no cuts
so let's hope for the best





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Peter Gabriel Genesis was scary but good.

The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is very cool.

Also Supper's Ready, I don't recall what album that is on, but that song is incredible.

As for the post-Gabriel stuff. I like some of it, some of it is very cool, self titled album (1980?) Home by The Sea, Mama etc very good. Invisible Touch was really good in parts, the last one with Collins was a bit bland, and I didn't even bother when they got the new singer after him Congo, I think was the album?

That early stuff is creepy and weird in ways that Alice Cooper, Marilyn Manson, Ozzie, Rob Zombie couldnt fuckign manufacture if they tried. PG with that weird shaved extended forehead is definitely weird. But it's cool in the same way, I guess.
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"Supper's Ready" was on Foxtrot. And you're right; the last album with their new singer, Ray Wilson, wasn't very good. It sold a lot of copies over in Britain, however. They had to cancel the tour in the U.S. because it did so poorly here.

I remember when there were rumors that the "new" Genesis were going to borrow the PopMart screens for their "world tour". Ha! What a riot that was! Do you guys remember that rumor?

Come on, closet Genesis fans! Let's talk about the G-Men! Don't be shy...

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I have a good friend who is a big Genesis fan so I have had the experience of seeing them live and hearing their stuff blasting in the car when he drives somewhere!

That being said, I'm no huge fan, but they have some good songs. I have seen them live twice and they were pretty good. I like Domino and Home By The Sea.

My "guess" would be that Collins, Banks and Rutherford will do a reunion tour at some point. I know Phil has expressed interest in it. I dont think Gabriel has any interest and quite honestly I dont care for his work with Genesis. I like alot of his solo work though.
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I get all nostalgic thinking about those early 90s videos for no son of mine, jesus he knows me and I can't dance. Great songs! I bought that album and then the greatest hits. Don't know much about Gabriel's Genesis or even early Collins Genesis. I like both Collins and Gabriel though as artists. I don't know what the fuss is (in America) about Phil Collins esp., he is not considered very cool.
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he is not considered very cool.
No, he's not. While I'm not a big fan or anything, I don't downright despise the guy's music, either-I've heard much worse, personally. And he has had a few good songs ("In The Air Tonight" and "Another Day In Paradise" in particular come to mind). I do prefer Peter Gabriel's solo work overall, but I'm not going to go into convulsions or something if I hear a Phil Collins song on the radio.

Anywho, I haven't heard a single song from the days when Peter was fronting Genesis, just some from Phil's frontman days. But I don't mind the stuff I've heard. I remember seeing the video for "Land Of Confusion" all the time on MTV when I was little, and there's a funny family story attached to that video, so it holds good memories for me .

Yeah. They're not that bad a group.

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thier first , i heard , was kinda bad
haven't heard the second one ( nursery Crime ) some eople are saying it's quite good
have foxtrot , an awesome record , it takes a while , and i need a lyric sheet ( same to all pre 1980 genesis albums )


Suppers ready is an ultimate prog love song

selling england by the pound is
" even better then the real thing "
all songs are great
then goes the lamb lies down on broadway
great concept album , although second part
is a bit hard for me
well gabriel leaves for good ( excellent solo works )
trick of the tail follows , collins sounds awesome , single songs
Wind And Wuthering follows , pretty good
then steve hacket leaves , no more magic guitars
Duke is an awesome album
Abacab is the last record with prog roots
after that the band goes into pop
good songs mixed with awful stuff
talking about phil collins work , he has a very good first album
but after that he almost becomes barry manillow ,
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I wouldn't count myself as a fan, but i do like them
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I own pretty much everything genesis. I wasn't old enough to ever see them live, but I have caught two phil shows and peter's last tour. Gabriel is a genius who truly doesn't care what you think of his music. That helps and hurts him, as it takes quite a few spins to get albums like UP in your head. That said, his music rewards the dedicated listener like few can.

And yes, the early Genesis stuff is creepy like nobody's biz. That one costum of Peter's with all the cancerlike balls hanging off it (the slipperman?) is the stuff of nightmares.
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I've seen quite a few of Peter Gabriel's music videos. Always unique and entertaining and creative, yes. But it sure doesn't surprise me to hear that he's quite out there visually .

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Peter Gabriel is one of the few musical geniuses who's music has a sense of digestablity next to complete difficulty. He is out there in a sense, but he has written some completely gorgeous songs. I think 'Us', is one of the most underrated albums ever.

A great example of his work, would be 'I Grieve' which is on 'Up' as most of you familiar with him know. But the first 3/4 of that song is haunting and gorgeous and the last segment it just gets crappy funk or something. Take the beautiful song 'In Your Eyes' as most people know, even those not familiar with PG much, on the album it's one of the best love songs ever, by just about anybody. But his live versions of that song completely ruin it for me, the hokey dancing, the musical arrangement, JEEZ! It's bad.

On the other hand, San Jacinto, live and on the album, but especially live, it's magic.

I love his music much more than I like Genesis, but I do appreciate Phil Collins before he totally mellowed out and decided to do show tunes or whatever. Good thread btw.
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