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Old 10-23-2004, 01:24 AM   #1
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Any Buffy or Angel fans out there?

Any U2 fans out there who are also Buffy The Vampire Slayer or Angel The Series fans? I know I can't be the only one on this board!

Which of the two is your favorite show?

Who are your favorite characters?


Angel is my favorite of the two but I like Buffy as well.
My favorite characters are Wesley ,Spike and Faith.
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OOOh yeah.

My favorite characters are Willow, Spike, Wesley (GOD Alexis deserves so much more than the sidekick role on a cult TV show, even though I hate him for marrying my dream girl).

I think Angel was more consistent, but I don't think it ever reached the same pinnacles as Buffy.

Best episodes?
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Buffy- in no particular order, except 1:
1)Grave
Once More, With Feeling
Hush
The Body
Surprise/Innocence
The Zeppo
Phases
Tabula Rasa!
Prophecy Girl
Angel
Faith, Hope, and Trick
Graduation Day Parts 1 and 2
Becoming
Restless (I'm weird)
Lies My Parents Told Me
Chosen
Fool for Love
Doublemeat Palace (OK, not really)

Overall, my favorite season is 6.

6
3
5
2
4
1

Angel:
Smile time!!!!
Not Fade Away (easily the best)
Apocalypse, Nowish
To Shanshu in LA
Darla
Shells
Waiting in the Wings
The House Always Wins
Rm W/a Vu
I Will Remember You (THIS IS SAD)
Hero
Five By Five/Sanctuary
Orpheus
Are you Now or Have you Ever Been?
Redefinition
Billy
Salvage

Fave seasons
4
3
5
2
1
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Big fan here.

Angel is a superior show - much better than Buffy. The Wesley story arc was the best one ever, he went over the edge and came back with bitterness, stubble and a shotgun.

Best character - I think that Angel was great in the whole tragic hero way. I couldn't stand the Spike/Buffy relationship - but the payoff in season 5 of Angel was great - The Girl In Question for example.

Not Fade Away where Wesley dies was an ending.

Amy Acker trumps Alyson Hannigan in my book.
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OOOh yeah.

My favorite characters are Willow, Spike, Wesley (GOD Alexis deserves so much more than the sidekick role on a cult TV show, even though I hate him for marrying my dream girl).

I think Angel was more consistent, but I don't think it ever reached the same pinnacles as Buffy.

Best episodes?
Hey! I thought I was the only fan here!! How can I forget Willow. She one of my faves too. Wesley is so underrated. His character made ATS so compelling.


My favorite ATS episodes:
Apocalypse Nowish- I love this episode! The fight with The Beast on the roof is probably the best I've seen on television.
Five By Five- The fight with Faith and Angel at the end is brilliant.
Orpheus
Salvage
Your Welcome
The Price
Not Fade Away
Underneath
Lullaby
Tommorrow
Darla
Dear Boy
Epiphany
I Will Remember You
A Hole In The World
The Trial
That's all I can think of for now. There are so many others.

I can't wait for season 5 on DVD! I have all the rest so far! I have to start my Buffy collection soon though.


So what's your favorite season and villian? Which character and villian do you despise?
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Amy Acker trumps Alyson Hannigan in my book.
My only problem is that we never see much middle range with Fred/Illyria's character. I prefer Alyson, but Willow was so thoroughly developed.
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General Whedonverse Favourites (excluding Firefly of course)

1: I Will Remember You
2: A Hole in the World (that ending)
3: Smile Time
4: Waiting in The Wings
5: Spin the Bottle
6: Guise Will Be Guise
7: Amends
8: Billy
9: Redefinition
10: Becoming
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Big fan here.

Angel is a superior show - much better than Buffy. The Wesley story arc was the best one ever, he went over the edge and came back with bitterness, stubble and a shotgun.

Best character - I think that Angel was great in the whole tragic hero way. I couldn't stand the Spike/Buffy relationship - but the payoff in season 5 of Angel was great - The Girl In Question for example. Not Fade Away where Wesley dies and Illyria does the morph.

Amy Acker trumps Alyson Hannigan in my book.

I agree! I always loved ATS more than Buffy. It was a darker show with adult themes. It was more than just a Buffy spin-off. I always was drawn to stories about redemption.


The thing is most people think women will like Buffy more because its about a strong woman. I'm a bigger fan of Angel! The problem with Buffy is that it focused on too many secondary characters during the later seasons. The core group didn't get much screen time even in the last few episodes.
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So what's your favorite season and villian? Which character and villian do you despise?
See above post for seasons.

Villains on Buffy:

It's all about the Mayor. I mean, he's such a peachy keen guy! And of course Angelus, Glory, and Evil Willow. I, unlike most people, liked the First in season 7. the only thing I never really liked was Adam. Bleh.

Villains on Angel:
Holtz. Holtz was a bastard. A justified bastard, but a bastard. Also, I love Jasmine and Hamilton. (Firefly cameos! Oh yeah, Nate Fillion on Buffy was cool, too). Lindsey and Lilah, of course, and "The Beast" (how many of these have we had now?).

Most of the weekly monsters in the first season were really lame. But the worst demon ever goes to the casino demon in the Gunn-centric episode at the end of season 3. That episode was HORRIBLE. Oh yeah, "Double or Nothing," I believe the title to be.
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I agree! I always loved ATS more than Buffy. It was a darker show with adult themes. It was more than just a Buffy spin-off. I always was drawn to stories about redemption.
My problem with Angel is that David just didn't have the chops to carry the show. The writing was better, but the core cast on Buffy was stronger on the whole. Even unexperienced Nick Brendan does more for me than David.
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Favourite villain was Angelus, the mayor and the troika were also good. The initiative was cool, if only because we could have chipped spike "Timmy's stuck down the bloody well"
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Favourite villain was Angelus, the mayor and the troika were also good. The initiative was cool, if only because we could have chipped spike "Timmy's stuck down the bloody well"
Buffy: How bored were you last year?
Giles: I watched "Passions" with Spike. Let us never speak of it.

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Oh, and on a side note: Does anyone else hate Harmony?
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Harmony and Spike - now that was a high point of season 4.
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I wonder if anybody has read Fray.
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