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Old 01-25-2006, 12:56 AM   #106
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Just watching the end here, and just saw "Rhonetta" - how incredibly bad was that!!!?!?!? OMG

and Paris was good - so was Ms. Pickler (the young blond who lived with her grandfather). And the guy who sang 'Let's Get It On' to Paula was really good too. As was the mom with 3 kids who lived in 42 different foster homes...
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I think Paris might win it all

That girl who brought the shower cap to kiss Simon was so funny
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Old 01-25-2006, 11:16 AM   #108
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so far no one has blown me away this season. meh.
i rarely watch this


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when that 17 year old got up and sang Dixie Chix she was pretty good


when she Billie Holiday
it came right through the TV and gave me chills
I did not think that was possible
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Randy: "That song would have taken two hours if you sang it like that."

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The producers last night made it seem like Rhonetta was going to say something crazy to Paula in the audition room (the previews kept showing Paula's face as if she was insulted by something Rhonetta said) but it was just some sad Lil' Kim wannabe that hasn't been told off nearly enough in her life.

Sooo not a fan of hype.
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American Idol Develops a Mean Streak

LOS ANGELES -- Considering it's the biggest kid on the block, "American Idol" is becoming quite the bully.

Fox's talent contest regularly has made an art of mocking the untalented who expose their dreams of stardom on TV, but the show's fifth year has the stench of a mean season.

Vulnerable contestants are coming in for more ridicule; bounced contestants are unleashing more extended and expletive-laden attacks on the judges and, we are warned, the future will demonstrate how vicious singers can be when they really want to win.

"We now have contestants who will not let anything get in their way of victory," host Ryan Seacrest told The Associated Press before the show returned. "Some contestants have thrown each other under the bus this season."

Much is at stake. Producers Fremantle Media North America and 19 Entertainment, who again have delivered the No. 1-rated show to Fox (last week's premiere drew a record 35.5 million viewers), are under pressure to keep the format a lucrative draw.

Would-be idols know this game can be about more than fleeting fame: It may be 15 seconds or it may be big album sales and a shot at a lasting career, as with "Since U Been Gone" hitmaker Kelly Clarkson.

"Shows have to reinvent themselves to stay fresh and invigorated for all these years," said analyst Shari Anne Brill of New York-based Carat USA.

In the past, "American Idol" (airing Tuesday and Wednesday) upped the age for contestants to 28 and divided the finalists evenly between men and women. This year, it's trying a little anti-tenderness.

Weight and sexuality are favorite targets, as in previous seasons and just like around the typical school yard. But there is new venom in everybody's blood, and emotional fragility be damned.

In last week's Chicago audition, a heavyset woman with an exceptional voice got a thumbs-up from the judges — and then chief provocateur Simon Cowell suggested the show might consider a bigger stage.

This especially cheap insult came from a man who also knows how to wittily target the performance, not the person.
He once compared a singer to a "waiter in a ghastly Spanish nightclub" and said a yodeled song was "a cross between a rodeo and 'La Cage Aux Folles.'"

Also in Chicago, a man with a high-pitched voice got Cowell's brutal career advice: Shave your beard and try wearing a dress.

In the Denver audition, Randy Jackson couldn't hide his surprise that a slightly built, long-haired contestant was male, not female.

"Wow," Jackson said. When the young man said he intended to sing Whitney Houston's "Queen of the Night," Jackson responded with a second "wow."

"Atrocious. Confused," was Cowell's post-performance comment.

Jackson's reaction seemed spontaneous and not unkind. After he was dismissed by the judges, the tearful contestant said Jackson "was just trying to make it all better."

Cut and print it; that's the kind of humiliation that sells.

Cowell and host Ryan Seacrest are known for their faintly gay-mocking banter, but the limits have become so stretched that the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation contacted Fox to voice concerns over the show's treatment of "sexual orientation and gender expression."

"The real offense here was in the producer's decision to add insult to injury by turning a contestant's gender expression into the butt of a joke," spokesman Damon Romine said in a statement posted on the group's Web site.

On Tuesday, GLAAD said it has started what it hopes will be a productive, ongoing conversation with Fox. The network declined comment.

While the series ultimately becomes about choosing the audience's favorite performer, the producers have decided to focus the audition segment on "the best of the worst" as well as the truly talented, analyst Brill said.

That puts the judges in the nearly inevitable position of offering smart-aleck comments, such as when Cowell toyed with a highly tanned, fashion-challenged young woman and her mother.

The snarky tone was carried over onto Fox's official "American Idol" Web site, in which a columnist questioned the mom and daughter's intelligence, saying, "I haven't seen such vacant stares this side of a mannequin."

Blaming Cowell for taking the bait or Jackson's discomfort with the contestant of uncertain gender is akin to making actors take the fall for their scripted lines; the producers lead them into the scene and the result is predictable.

In 2004, following the unlikely celebration of spectacularly off-key William Hung, Cowell expressed uneasiness with spotlighting the untalented.

"When you celebrate awfulness it puts you in a slightly uncomfortable position," Cowell said then, adding he was nervous "that we're going to get people coming on the show next year that want to be bad."

Bingo.

"American Idol" producers were unavailable for comment Tuesday.

However, when it comes to the show's bluntness about contestants, heavy or otherwise, that's simply reality, said Peggy Howell, spokeswoman for the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance.

"We're burying our head in the sand if we try to pretend people don't have those attitudes and think and say those things," said Howell.

And when it's showcased on "American Idol," that's entertainment — or so the ratings say.

"The audience has not shied away yet," said analyst Bill Carroll of Katz Television. "But it's early in the game."
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^ Yea I felt the same way HelloAngel. I kept waiting for her to go and like duke it out with Paula or something.

Oh well. There were some good singers last night. The guy who serenaded Paula was quite good.. and the girl who sang Billie Holiday. Those are the two that stand out for me.
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Randy: "That song would have taken two hours if you sang it like that."

Hehe. I told my family that I thought that guy should've gotten together with that one girl who sang "Unchained Melody" in her audition one season and dragged it out to no end there, too.

As for the show's people being mean-you know, my dad made an interesting point the other night-if people who audition think the judges are harsh, then they really shouldn't be in the music industry-what would they do if one day they were loved by the country and then the next, they couldn't even sell a copy to their friends? I think that would be a hell of a lot harsher than what some judge says to them in an audition room. If they're going to get into this business, they should know it's not going to be glitz and glam the entire time, there will be some rude people out there, be it the public or someone working on their album with them or whoever.

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i rarely watch this


but
when that 17 year old got up and sang Dixie Chix she was pretty good


when she Billie Holiday
it came right through the TV and gave me chills
I did not think that was possible
YES!!!

I got chills too, "Take 5" is one of my favorite Billie Holiday songs.

I am eager to see what becomes of this sweet young thing.
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As for the show's people being mean-you know, my dad made an interesting point the other night-if people who audition think the judges are harsh, then they really shouldn't be in the music industry-what would they do if one day they were loved by the country and then the next, they couldn't even sell a copy to their friends? I think that would be a hell of a lot harsher than what some judge says to them in an audition room. If they're going to get into this business, they should know it's not going to be glitz and glam the entire time, there will be some rude people out there, be it the public or someone working on their album with them or whoever.
Amen to that.

Everytime my mom emails me to bitch about how mean Simon is, I try to explain to her that he's doing them a favor. What's worse - giving someone a taste of what will come only on a much larger scale and a big dose of reality, or just being sweet and giving ppl false hope? Sure, he can be rude, but alot of the time, brutal truth is needed.

Most people have no idea how the entertainment industry really is, and that's probably a good thing.
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Most people have no idea how the entertainment industry really is, and that's probably a good thing.
AMEN SISTER!!!!
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i rarely watch this


but
when that 17 year old got up and sang Dixie Chix she was pretty good


when she Billie Holiday
it came right through the TV and gave me chills
I did not think that was possible
I was watching with friends and we'd been laughing and yelling out our own running commentary the whole time (which is basically the main reason we watch it, to laugh at each other's commentaries)...and then when she opened her mouth we just fell silent. And then looked at each other at the same time and said we had chills.
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Amen to that.

Everytime my mom emails me to bitch about how mean Simon is, I try to explain to her that he's doing them a favor. What's worse - giving someone a taste of what will come only on a much larger scale and a big dose of reality, or just being sweet and giving ppl false hope? Sure, he can be rude, but alot of the time, brutal truth is needed.

Most people have no idea how the entertainment industry really is, and that's probably a good thing.
Once in awhile I think Simon crosses a line and says something just really unnecessarily mean, but for the most part I think he's usually right on.
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Once in awhile I think Simon crosses a line and says something just really unnecessarily mean, but for the most part I think he's usually right on.
I agree. He does it to be funny and sometimes he misses the mark.
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Amen to that.

Everytime my mom emails me to bitch about how mean Simon is, I try to explain to her that he's doing them a favor. What's worse - giving someone a taste of what will come only on a much larger scale and a big dose of reality, or just being sweet and giving ppl false hope? Sure, he can be rude, but alot of the time, brutal truth is needed.

Most people have no idea how the entertainment industry really is, and that's probably a good thing.
Exactly .

I remember my dad being utterly amazed when the girl did the Billie Holiday song last night. He kept talking about how hard that sort of song is to do and that she was pulling it off very well.
She really is good, I will be very curious to see what becomes of her in the coming weeks.

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