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Old 08-30-2002, 03:12 PM   #16
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I had just decided about 6 days ago that eminem is an angry little brilliant boy and I was sorta liking some of his songs. I told a friend this while sitting in the 3rd row waiting for Moby to come onstage last week.

So I was an eminem fan for all of 6 days and it ended last night. But I feel better after reading what Moby posted on his website today:



classy, that Moby.
I started to like eminem's music too, I do not like him as a person, but I did like some songs on his last album. However, after seeing the way he acted at the VMA's, I can't stand the little prick anymore. I was so glad when he was booed off the stage.
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Old 08-30-2002, 03:14 PM   #17
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Thanks for the posts from moby.com, joyfulgirl. He is a class act all the way. I'm glad he set the record straight. MTV either didn't record or edited out some of the threats that Eminem made. I wondered exactly what happened to make the crowd boo. Eminem getting booed by his music industry peers was pretty cool.
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However, after seeing the way he acted at the VMA's, I can't stand the little prick anymore. I was so glad when he was booed off the stage.
Seriously. I mean he has some good stuff, but it seems he just keeps saying the same thing over and over again, "look at me I act black and that scares old people, but your kids all want to be just like me... blah blah.... I'm a fucking genius" His videos are hilarious (except Stan, which was disturbing), but he needs to expand his music, or his next record probably will go nowhere.

I am pissed about him picking on Moby. It's not as if Moby provoked it in any way, and I was glad his pasty white ass got booed off of stage. Maybe this is the beginning of the end.
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I like neither artist, but Eminem is just ridiculous...it's fairly obvious that he is nothing more than a corporate tool. There is no doubt that he has talent, but it's going to waste doing, as previous posters have said before me, the same old thing. He's really only selling his gimmick right now....

BTW, Triumph is outstanding...two thumbs up to that dog.
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I am a member of the Moby boards at Moby.com and I like reading his online journal. I like how he keeps in touch with his fans that way. What is sad is that the Moby ubb was invaded by ignorant Eminem fans, and all they could post was derogatory posts, typing in all caps, basically using language that Eminem uses in all of his songs. It's sad, but it's also brings to mind what Moby said about Eminem "he promotes hate" and that is what I sensed from fans of Eminem.

Eminem got rich off white america by using an African American artform, I wish he could do something positive with it, kind of like what the Beastie Boys have done. Soon his material will run out, eventually he will stop hating his mom, eventually he will stop hating women, eventually his sense of humor and language will go past the 6th grade level.

What is there to be angry about when you're a rich white man anyway? Oh, well maybe he should stop being self centered and focus his anger on other things in the world other than his miserable life he used to have. I mean, there are a lot of injustices in the world that could use more national spotlight, not just the fact that you weren't coddled by mommy, Mr Marshal Mathers.
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Eminem is a no talent, rude, stupid, trashy, excuse for a musician. He had no reason to start hating moby. he had never met moby untill after the VMA's. And Eminem is such an idiot. Yes make violent threats to a little pacifist. He knows Moby wont do anything. He only makes fun of people who he knows wont do anything back. I mean make violent comments to a woman who weighs 45 lbs (christina augulira), please! all he does is whine about either how bad his life is, or how much better he is than everyone else, or makes fun of people. How immature! I mean there is no variety to his music. there is more to life then what he is rapping about. He needs to open his eyes. I am suprised he has't rapped about Bono saying he is "gay" or "old". Because Bono would act like moby and have a sense of humor. and shrug it off. I dont see him as having ay talent. he takes human rights back so far, I wish he would leve moby alone. It is just sad he is bothering with it. It is just to get some publicity. because if he wasn't making violent threats, no one would give a shit about him
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In response to AdamsMango, I read a Rolling Stone interview w/ the White Stripes which refers to an incident where Ozzy Osbourne's wife Sharon was reportedly telling off Eminem in the hall of some awards show (MTV Movie Awards, I believe)...and Eminem being surrounded by bodyguards not responding at all to her verbal tirade. Basically, you (and everyone else) are right, he only attacks meaningless "pop" stars and others who have no interest to attack in a physical way. He's just a pawn...he doesn't (and will not) try to antagonize others because he's trying to sell to the "rebel" kid, the MTV crowd...its a shame IMO, but sure enough, the well will run dry.
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Rap music is the second of the prime evils of this world.

Pop music is the first.
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I like eminem.
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Well the awards were shown here in Europe today and i thought that Eminem's behaviour was pathetic.

First (unlike Moby) he refuses to play along with the joke with the dog and shoves him off, and later he threats Moby
- and from interviews i've seen with Moby, i really don't think he's the kind of person that would boo anyone - if you look carefully, right after Eminem gets up to pick up that partcular award, you can see Moby is clapping! Besides there was a whole lot more than 1 person booing from the sounds of it.

AND I LOVED EMINEM getting booed!

I dunno - i'm not into techno, but i do like Moby's sound, and i'm not into rap but Eminem has catchy rhytms and i don't think his lyrics are meant to be taken seriously - i think it's more like he just likes to push people's buttons. (too bad though he spends his talent on the "controversy" mask he puts on instead of addressing some real issues in the world like, say, Rage against the machine.).
Also, a lot of his success IMO comes due to the fact he's white - i don't think a black rapper would get this kind of publicity.
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Eminem's a talent. I think he sold out though. After whining aboot not wanting to be in the same room as MTV regulars....now he's one of them
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well..................

I watched the VMA simply because I thought they might have a real band there but I was mistaken..there were however a couple of knockoff the Who and the Stones bands that were up and coming ...key to being my favorite band or video is that the BAND MEMBERS ACTUALLY PLAY AN INSTRUMENT! AND MAKE "MUSIC" ...I was not in the least impressed with MandM (Vanilla No II) or his wannabemusicbuttalkingthelyricsinstead...I think its geared toward violence at the least and on the flip side, he might not be "all that " to look at but I think Moby is pretty creative and talented (his disc I have)...regardless of what the dog said he lacked (the "D" thing...he's only descended from the author)...but I did discover why I really don't do MTV anymore...(I'm getting old but I can still HEAR!) it's geared for 17 to 20 year olds (and it seems to be all gang banger rap)...VH1 however plays U2 and is geared to 25 and up....and has real BANDS
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Eminem's a talent. I think he sold out though. After whining aboot not wanting to be in the same room as MTV regulars....now he's one of them
He's been an MTV regular for the last 3 years though...
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Eminem's a talent. I think he sold out though. After whining aboot not wanting to be in the same room as MTV regulars....now he's one of them
Yes, i think it's funny how he got from this "underground" world into mainstream.
I thought real rappers didn't care for MTV airplay or mainstream... and yet he keeps thanking MTV. (i mean, isn't he supposed to "keep it real?") To me the more publicity he gets the less seriously he will be taken.



Also dr. Dre helped him big.
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Yes, i think it's funny how he got from this "underground" world into mainstream.
I thought real rappers didn't care for MTV airplay or mainstream... and yet he keeps thanking MTV. (i mean, isn't he supposed to "keep it real?") To me the more publicity he gets the less seriously he will be taken.
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