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Old 10-22-2005, 01:07 AM   #46
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i think rooney is the best young player in the world right now but he does have a temprament problem. ferguson needs to calm him down. i don't know if ferguson is still respected by the players, i guess he is. by the old boys like neville scholes giggs and keane anyway. but maybe the dominance of chelsea is getting to him. Rooney makes man united and england come alive with his talent but he needs to stop getting so hot headed and worked up.
I agree with this.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:58 AM   #47
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sorry to crash the party but its quite clear that Mr robinho of real madrid and brazil is definately the best young player in the world at the moment, rooney's pretty good but still has some way to go to be as effective as a robben or a wright phillips....and yeah clapping wont help really esp in front of the ref
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:09 AM   #48
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beckham plays some beautiful football. of course he cares about playing. on the other hand......

Simone = thug
Walter samuel = thug
aldo duscher = thug
roberto ayala = thug
mattias almeyda = thug

the list could go on.....

hahaha, oh the hypocracy of it all, an Englishman having a go at another country for having thugs........

Speaking of which,

Rooney must be the most over-rated/hyped player I've ever seen in this country, I could not believe how many people flocked to love him for no other reason than he was a decent young English player and every fan needed a new hero. I concede that he has scored some pretty spectacular goals, but he scores very few unspectacular goals. Wayne Rooney can hit the ball hard, fast and straight and he can hit the opposition players hard, fast and straight. After that, he has nothing that other English players can't do better.
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Rooney must be the most over-rated/hyped player I've ever seen in this country, I could not believe how many people flocked to love him for no other reason than he was a decent young English player and every fan needed a new hero. I concede that he has scored some pretty spectacular goals, but he scores very few unspectacular goals. Wayne Rooney can hit the ball hard, fast and straight and he can hit the opposition players hard, fast and straight. After that, he has nothing that other English players can't do better.
ok ok, let's stop for a minute and analyse your post. you think that the attributes that wayne rooney has are that he can "hit the ball hard, fast and straight".

is that it? is that all he can do?

i mean, i'm not a man united fan, i don't like them at all but one can't help but admire the talent wayne rooney has. some of the things he can do at his age are outrageous. he was by far our best player at Euro 2004, at the age of 18 might i add. His all round game is amazing for someone of his age. technically he is superb and like you say, he has got a a great shot. although you said he hits it straight, which he does quite often but he can curl it too e.g. the volley against Newcastle last season. not only is he skilful but he's strong and quick too.

he's got a temprament problem however and he needs to sort that out.
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sorry to crash the party but its quite clear that Mr robinho of real madrid and brazil is definately the best young player in the world at the moment, rooney's pretty good but still has some way to go to be as effective as a robben or a wright phillips....and yeah clapping wont help really esp in front of the ref
where's all this rooney bashing coming from?

Robinho is a very good player but he hasn't been very effective when i've seen him play for Real Madrid. i watched them lose against Valencia this weekend and Robinho hardly featured. i remember him taking the ball round a few people but i can't really remember him doing much else. at least Rooney has an end product.
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mayb ur right...ppl usually fancy the next best player coming out of brazil being the next best player in the world thats cause its almost always been like that.. rooney could do it..i certainly hope so..but hes in the wrong team at the wrong time.. manu are looking ahead at some trophyless seasons..a team like arsenal could have done better for him....but who am i to say
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He has the capacity to be a top 5 world players if he works seriously, and if he is a real professional.
Capacity my arse.

Name four better players in the world.

I can come up with Ronaldinho but after that I'm stumped.

As for the temperament issue, silly old me was under the impression that a hunger and desire to win was a good thing.

The big tournaments are the best and fairest ways of measuring someone's quaility, and at Euro 2004 Rooney was the best man by far. Better than Zidane, Nedved, Henry, Raul, Figo, Joaquin, Ronaldo, Baros, Ballack, Van Nistelrooy, Lampard, Ibrahimovic, Robben, Torres or anyone else you care to come up with.

The technical standard at a European Championship is higher than that of a World Cup (without being a snob the quality of the football full stop is better) and Rooney scored four goals, a couple of assists in three and a half games despite being managed by a muppet.
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Capacity my arse.

Name four better players in the world.

I can come up with Ronaldinho but after that I'm stumped.

As for the temperament issue, silly old me was under the impression that a hunger and desire to win was a good thing.

The big tournaments are the best and fairest ways of measuring someone's quaility, and at Euro 2004 Rooney was the best man by far. Better than Zidane, Nedved, Henry, Raul, Figo, Joaquin, Ronaldo, Baros, Ballack, Van Nistelrooy, Lampard, Ibrahimovic, Robben, Torres or anyone else you care to come up with.

The technical standard at a European Championship is higher than that of a World Cup (without being a snob the quality of the football full stop is better) and Rooney scored four goals, a couple of assists in three and a half games despite being managed by a muppet.
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There are people who will say Rooney is the most overrated player in the world as there are many to say U2 is most overrated band.Who cares, Rooney is the best young player and England has at the moment the strongest team after Brasil.This is very objective oppinion because Iam not British.
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Brasil's attack at the moment is just immense - ronaldo, ronaldinho, kaka, robinho, adriano, juninho pernambucano (the best free kick taker in the world). however in not very sure about their defense. they are definitely vunerable at the back where we have 3 or 4 world class centre backs.

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Anyone seen Argentina- England.Fantastic game , outstanding both Rooney and Owen.Bring back Ashley Cole ,Neville and convince Scholes to return and England will do in 2006 what Fernando Alonso did in 2005.
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Anyone seen Argentina- England.Fantastic game , outstanding both Rooney and Owen.Bring back Ashley Cole ,Neville and convince Scholes to return and England will do in 2006 what Fernando Alonso did in 2005.
Don't think I'd push for a Scholes return, his form for Utd in the past 18 months has been patchy at best.
With all players fully fit I'd go for;

Robinson

A.Cole Campbell Terry G.Neville

J.Cole Gerrard Lampard Bekham

Owen Rooney

Subs; James, Bridge, Ferdinand, Wright-Phillips, Defoe
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How about Rio - Campbell defence. I think it will work better.They play together for a long time and know each other very well.Don't get me wrong , Terry is perfect but if Rio could raise his form it will be more perfect. And I completly forgot about Wright-Phillips.Man, what a team. It will be shame if England and Brasil meet before grande finale.
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Ferdinand makes far too many mistakes for my liking, personally I wish Fergie had slung him out in the summer, stringing Utd along the way he did,especially after they'd looked after him the way they did throughout the "missed" drug test
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