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Old 06-03-2008, 03:54 AM   #766
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If you happen to come from one of the tracks but the trailing points are set for a train travelling to or from the OTHER track, then a piece of steel is going to be obstructing your train's wheels and the result is not going to be pretty.
In other words,

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Go on, just say it.
A heavy-duty pneumatic power drill?
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we used to have those running down Chapel Street near my high school, not sure if we still do. We always wondered why the oldest trams were running down one of the most high-profile streets in Melbourne...
Yeah, you still regularly see various W class trams on route 78/79 (though today, when I was at the intersection of High and Chapel Streets, a Z3 was on route 78 duties). At the moment, the only routes routinely operated by the W class are route 30, the City Circle, and routes 78/79. I think the main reason they stay on 78/79 is that it's one of the few lines that's simply cross-suburban and does NOT go into the CBD, so it can run at a more sedate pace. The Ws don't quite have the acceleration that the newer trams do.
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Could have been any number of factors really. If it were a single train incident, i.e. it didn't crash into any others, then the most likely cause would be excessive speed causing the train to leave the rails. Alternatively, the driver could have ignored a signal (that is often the cause of multiple train collisions) and hit ... well, in railway jargon, hit a set of trailing points set against his train. At slow speeds, it is sometimes possible to pass through those without derailing (although it fucks up the track and is not exactly a good idea), but at any decent speed, it'll likely send the train off the tracks.

To try to put that into non-gunzel speak ... one track splits into two at a set of points. When you are coming from the one track and it is about to split into two, then the points are facing you ("facing points"). If you are on one of the two tracks about to become one, then as you cross the points, they will be trailing behind you ("trailing points"). If you happen to come from one of the tracks but the trailing points are set for a train travelling to or from the OTHER track, then a piece of steel is going to be obstructing your train's wheels and the result is not going to be pretty.
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A veteran CTA train motorman apparently disobeyed a red "stop" signal and overruled equipment that triggered the emergency brakes, resulting in a derailment Wednesday high above the ground, according to a preliminary investigation by transit officials.
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Yeah, you still regularly see various W class trams on route 78/79 (though today, when I was at the intersection of High and Chapel Streets, a Z3 was on route 78 duties). At the moment, the only routes routinely operated by the W class are route 30, the City Circle, and routes 78/79. I think the main reason they stay on 78/79 is that it's one of the few lines that's simply cross-suburban and does NOT go into the CBD, so it can run at a more sedate pace. The Ws don't quite have the acceleration that the newer trams do.
That's fair, but you don't really want, say, Andre Agassi or Bono or whoever on a rickety old tram on their way to Chapel Street now, do you? I mean, it won't give them the best impression of Melbourne ever.

Besides, they vibrate like heavy-duty pneumatic power drills.
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Yes, classically bad. When the paint's flaking off and the bell-pull is rotting leather and the train vibrates harder than... well, something that vibrates hard, you somehow just know you're not on the best tram in the world.
Yeah, some of the Ws still in the green and cream livery of The Met could do with a bit of a touch-up on their paint job. Though they still look beautiful.



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In other words,

WOOOOPS.
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I'd hope so, but that means she can see me watching my TV

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So to counteract some of the trains and trams Ax has been posting, I've just found out what I want for Christmas:



Hell, screw Christmas, I want them now!
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well I went to check, looks like option a:
Awesome.

And what a twit! I like Melbourne's latest controversial train driver action though: at Glenhuntly station, as a train approached, some girl ran out across the tracks in front of it. She then proceeded to catch the train - and the driver refused to leave the station until she got off! Apparently the police were called and the train sat there for 20 minutes, with other services backing up behind it!
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So to counteract some of the trains and trams Ax has been posting, I've just found out what I want for Christmas:



Hell, screw Christmas, I want them now!
Oh, if you were wondering, it's a throwing knife - comes in a set of 3 for just $89!
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That's fair, but you don't really want, say, Andre Agassi or Bono or whoever on a rickety old tram on their way to Chapel Street now, do you? I mean, it won't give them the best impression of Melbourne ever.

Besides, they vibrate like heavy-duty pneumatic power drills.
Somehow, I don't think Andre Agassi or Bono's going to be travelling by tram in the first place.

I love riding the Ws, but yeah, they're pretty loud compared to the newer ones.
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