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Old 02-14-2005, 05:40 PM   #16
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The Westminster Dog Show starts tonight, I love that
Watching it now! Working, sporting, and herding dogs are my favorites.
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Did anyone see this newly recognized breed, the Neopolitan Mastiff?


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My favorites are the herding and hound group. There is just something about those herding dogs-especially shelties!
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Yes! I saw the neopolitans earlier this fall. Frightening, lol. I think I heard the announcer last night say one was used in the latest Harry Potter movie? I can't remember since I've only seen it once, when it first came out...

I'm excited to see the herders tonight. Some of my favorite dogs (namely German Shepherds and Border Collies) are herders. Someday I want a white German shepherd, a black German Shepherd, and a regular colored one. I also love the gun dogs (the shorthaired pointers and retrievers).
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Re: All you animal lovers....

please close your curtains
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I had a German Shepherd when I was little, she was the greatest dog

I have a Border Collie, and had one before her. They are wonderful dogs but extremely demanding lol

They really are as smart as people say they are
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I have a Border Collie, and had one before her. They are wonderful dogs but extremely demanding lol

They really are as smart as people say they are
Really? How so? I have no experience w/ the breed. I've never had any dog and I've never known anyone with a Border Collie. Please enlighten me....
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Maybe their breeding for herding has made them more intelligent, many "experts" say they are the most intelligent breed.

I swear my dog understands words, not that other breeds don't. She's a mix, not a purebred. My other Border was a purebred.

They demand a lot of exercise and attention.

There are many sites about Borders if you want to check them out , I don't know any off the top of my head

I'm no expert about them, I just know I've loved mine. I'd love to be a handler, that would be so cool. I don't know how to go about doing that, I guess the clubs have programs or something. Good thing is, I don't think there's an age limit on doing that
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Do you happen to know how they are with children or other pets? Although I suppose it mostly depends on the temperment of the individual dog...
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I absolutely love this dog... It is sooo cute....
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Have you heard about this dog?

Rico, the nearly nine-year-old Border collie, can learn the names of unfamiliar toys after just one exposure to the new word-toy combination. The scientists equate the dog's apparent learning to a process seen in human language acquisition called "fast mapping." The fast mapping abilities of children allow them to form quick and rough hypotheses about the meaning of a new word after a single exposure.

"Such fast, one-trial learning in dogs is remarkable. This ability suggests that the brain structures that support this kind of learning are not unique to humans, and may have formed the evolutionary basis of some of the advanced language abilities of humans," said Katrina Kelner, Science's deputy editor for life sciences.

The German team first verified Rico's 200-word "vocabulary." In a series of controlled experiments, Rico correctly retrieved, by name, a total of 37 out of 40 items randomly chosen from his toy collection. The authors write that Rico's "vocabulary size" is comparable to that of language-trained apes, dolphins, sea lions and parrots.

Next, the researchers tested Rico's ability to learn new words through fast mapping. Fischer's team placed a new toy among seven familiar toys. In a separate room, the owner asked Rico to fetch the new item, using a name the Border collie had never heard before.

Rico correctly retrieved a new item in seven of ten sessions. He apparently appreciates, as young children do, that new words tend to refer to objects that do not already have names. After a month without access to these target toys, Rico retrieved them, upon request, from groups of four familiar and four completely novel toys in three out of six sessions. His retrieval rate is comparable to the performance of three-year-old toddlers, according to the authors.

"For psychologists, dogs may be the new chimpanzees," writes Paul Bloom from Yale University in New Haven, CT, in an accompanying "Perspective" article in Science.

Scientists around the world are currently studying how chimpanzees learn language and communicate.

The authors do not claim that Rico and children have an equally rich understanding of words. They do show, however, that Rico can make the link between objects and sounds.

"This is a crucial step that allows an animal to figure things out in the environment," Fischer explained.

Fischer's team is now investigating Rico's ability to understand entire phrases, such as requests for Rico to put toys in boxes, or to bring them to certain people.

Fischer noted that people should not take this study as a reason to go out and get a Border collie as a novelty.

"Border collies are working dogs," Fischer said. "If they were humans, we'd call them workaholics. They are high-maintenance, professional dogs that need at least four or five hours of attention a day."

Here is a link to full article with a picture of Rico. I thought this was pretty amazing.

http://www.astrobio.net/news/article1015.html
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Do you happen to know how they are with children or other pets? Although I suppose it mostly depends on the temperment of the individual dog...
As far as I know they're good w/ kids, both of mine have been. As far as other pets, not necessarily. They tend to be territorial and possessive of their owners. Neither one of mine had professional or obedience training, which is key I think to dogs getting along w/ other pets and kids, etc. My first one got along w/ another dog and cats, but this one, no way.

The Border made it to Best in Show last night but didn't win of course. The German Shorthair had it in the bag w/ those stacks. I learned that word from the show

I'm sort of glad the Border didn't win, because people tend to go out and get them as pets when they see that, and if they're not prepared for how much work a Border is, they end up rejected in shelters and such.

Yes I've heard about Rico, that was one of the examples I was thinking of
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Very cute, but that Hot Dog is kind of scary...
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I had a German Shepherd when I was little, she was the greatest dog

I have a Border Collie, and had one before her. They are wonderful dogs but extremely demanding lol

They really are as smart as people say they are
My brother has a border collie... she is by far (with the exception of mine... ) the absolute best dog I have every met in the world. BUT - she is a LOT of work. she's finally starting to calm down now - and she's nearly 8. She needs exercise everyday, not a walk around the block, we're talking a run or an hour of fetch outside. She LOVES everyone, especially my brother - like you said she is extremely territorial of him. As for kids... she loves them, but I think she can be a little overwhelming sometimes even for them. They tried obedience school when she was little, but she was asked to "leave", because she kept trying to herd all the dogs together. Talk about smart though - I swear she understands what we're talking about. My sister in law is pregnant.... very shortly after she found out she starting coming over to her and sniffing/licking her belly daily. In short, they're awesome pets... but REALLY need the right kind of owner that will exercise them to keep them happy.
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